Bible Discussion Thread

Where in the Old Testament does it say that Ishmael persecuted Isaac? Galatians 4:29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.

I believe this section 4:22-31 among many in the Bible has been tampered with to stir contention in the middle east, and divide the Muslim tribes from the Jews, and now too with a divisive wall between all 3.

I am in Christ, but have never experienced true freedom, not because of the Ishmaelites, Muslims, but because of white supremacists who have been persecuting the Muslims, Jews, & Christians for a VERY LONG TIME.

These white supremacists have used occultic practices to control minds, hearts and turn brother against brother.

It's time for the true Christians to get up off their hind quarters and pray for the household of Abraham- for healing, reconciliation, peace and unity.

The white supremacists don't want a house united because a house united means power that the white supremacists cannot dominate. Their army will be destroyed very quickly, so now they use surveillance and lethal drones which is a very cowardly thing to do. They feel powerful when they are armed with their hi-tech weapons, and only aim to kill people they provoke to lash out, just so they have a reason to arrest, blow up, bomb innocent children, and use the excuse that it was an accident.

Enough perversion of the Scripture as white supremacists have done for years to keep people enslaved, ignorant, and even in separating them from their children.

Arissa, the reference to Isaac's persecution is in Gen 21:9: "And Sarah saw the son of Hagar the Egyptian, which she had born unto Abraham, mocking." We're not told what happened here, though it would no doubt have included about Ishmael's older age to Isaac (Ishmael was in his teens when Isaac was born) & his rights as the firstborn, & that Abraham celebrated Isaac's birth (v 8), whereas Ishmael's birth was a 'non-event'. However, Ishmael was not the son of Promise & was cast away, yet he would become a great nation yet still the enmity goes on between these 'brothers'.

Of course, Muslims with their own interpretation & for their convenience, make Ishmael as the dominant son from Abraham, even to the point of Abraham taking him up to be sacrificed instead of Isaac. So we have many long-standing conflicts that cannot be easily resolved & no doubt it will have a greater bearing as the Anti-Christ comes to the fore.