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I believe in Covid 19 (which is largely fake), we are in the preparation phase for the tribulation judgments. Of course, this can't be the tribulation since the church is still on earth and not yet raptured, but they are preparing with this pestilence, economic collapse, famine, etc. It's most imperative that all repent and believe in Jesus Christ.
The book of Revelation is the Revelation of Jesus Christ. It speaks of end-time events and the coming judgment, but also gives us a picture of our Lord Jesus Christ coming in glory. As far as what's going on in our country (U.S.), I see a lot of evil, but that is going on all over the world. The things happening here do not fit into the book of Revelation as far as end-time prophecy is concerned. All end-time prophecy centers around the nation of Israel, not the United States.
Revelation 17:5 mentions the phrase "Mystery, Babylon the Great." In Revelation, Babylon is cryptically known as Rome. Chapter 17 gives us the description of the destruction of Babylon which was shown to the apostle John. It describes this woman who is riding the beast. She is called the great whore that sits upon many waters.
In Revelation 17:6, John sees the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. For many centuries, Rome, under the direction of the papacy tortured, burned, and slaughtered many Christians.
Revelation 17:9 gives us the location of this woman who rides the beast. It's a city that sits on seven hills or mountains. Rome is the only city on this earth that sits on seven hills. John is shown the mystery of this woman, Babylon the great, and her future destruction in Revelation 17:16.
The beast is only going to allow the religious system, the prophet, to ride this beast for so long. And the ten nations are going to give their allegiance to this woman. But when the antichrist is through with her, then he's going to turn against her, as well as the kings because they're going to be on his side, and she's going to be destroyed, this religious system.
No Jessue you are error since there are many cities built on 7 hills and Jerusalem is one of them.
Jerusalem's seven hills are the following Mount Scopus, Mount Olivet (Mount of Olives) and the Mount of Corruption (all three are peaks in a mountain ridge that lies east of the old city), Mount Ophel, the original Mount Zion, the New Mount Zion and the hill on which the Antonia Fortress was built, you know the wailing wall where the jews pray at.
Rome was never sent prophets of the Lord. who killed the saints and the Lord?
King James Bible book of John 5:16 - And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sought to slay him, because he had done these things on the sabbath day.
John 5:18 - Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.
John 7:1 - After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in Jewry, because the Jews sought to kill him.
Act 9:23 - And after that many days were fulfilled, the Jews took counsel to kill him
Act 23:12 - And when it was day, certain of the Jews banded together, and bound themselves under a curse, saying that they would neither eat nor drink till they had killed Paul.
Act 26:21 - For these causes the Jews caught me in the temple, and went about to kill me.
Do you see Rome in there anywhere?
Paul in 1 Thessalonians 2:14, 16 - For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, EVEN AS THEY HAVE OF THE JEWS: WHO BOTH KILLED THE LORD JESUS, and their own PROPHETS, and have persecuted us; and THEY PLEASE NOT GOD, and are contrary to all men: Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: FOR THE WRATH IS COME UPON THEM TO THE UTTERMOST.
Revelation 18:24 says Babylon killed the prophets.
Thanks for correcting my error, Bob. You seem to be very good at correcting other people's errors. I read most of your posts and you spend a lot of time correcting others. I think I agree with what Mishael had to say. She makes a great point about sharing our relationship with Christ to others. That would be much better than constantly tearing apart what other people share here. I am not saying that we should not correct a blatant error, especially if it impacts a person's salvation, but if all we do is spend our time correcting what we perceive as "error," what are we doing? Tearing apart everything people share does not do anything for building up the church as we should be doing.
In all sincerity, I do thank you for pointing out my error on the seven hills. I just looked it up and you are correct. There are others. Good job! But none of those cities match the description of the seven hill city in Revelation Chapters 17 and 18. We see that this city will be utterly destroyed. You can't tell me that is Jerusalem. There is no place in scripture that tells us that in the end times Jerusalem will be completely destroyed. Quite the opposite! Rome will be destroyed.
You ask me "Who killed the saints and the Lord?" Here's my answer to that. Yes, the Jews were responsible for persecuting those who followed Christ. But so was Rome. You cannot deny that Rome slaughtered and tortured millions of Christians for many centuries.
For the second part of your question, "Who killed the Lord?" You killed him, Bob. You killed Him, I killed Him, and every sinner who has been born into this world killed Him. You can't blame this on the Jews. Jesus Christ came for the sole purpose of dying on the cross. Why did He do this? He did it for you, He did it for me, and He did it for every sinner that has ever been born. We killed Him, Bob. Technically, He freely gave Himself up to death. Had it not of been for our sin, He would not have had to come and die. So yes, you and I killed Him!
No Jesse I did not kill the Lord, he died for me, but I did not kill him.
Paul tells us who killed Jesus.
Paul in 1 Thessalonians 2:14, 16 - For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, EVEN AS THEY HAVE OF THE JEWS: WHO BOTH KILLED THE LORD JESUS, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and THEY PLEASE NOT GOD, and are contrary to all men: Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: FOR THE WRATH IS COME UPON THEM TO THE UTTERMOST.
Pilate tried to release Jesus, but the priests of the temple threatened Pilate with treason before Rome if he released Jesus.
Yes, Bob, that is correct. Jesus died for you. He died also for me. Guess who else He died for? He died for those Jews that Paul mentions in 1 Thess. Chapter 2. I am not going to place any blame on the Jews. You seem as though you have a strong dislike for the Jews for killing Jesus. This is just something I sense, but I could be wrong. It was no surprise to Jesus that He was going to die on the cross. It was no surprise to Him that the Jews would do what they did.
In all honesty, even though He died on the cross, I don't think anyone could have killed Him. Jesus gave Himself freely to the cross for which He came for. They couldn't have taken Him no matter how many people with clubs and swords came to do it. We see that in scripture when the huge crowd armed with swords and clubs came to take Him, and with just His voice, Jesus blew them all over, twice!
My whole point is that Jesus came here for a reason. He came to die our death because of your sin, my sin, and the sins of the entire world, including the Jews! So to try and place the blame solely on the Jews for killing Him, I can't do that when I am just as guilty of sin, and just as guilty of His death as they were. That's why I say I also killed Him. Maybe you won't agree with me when I say this, but I also died with Him!
Pilate did release Jesus. He just released the wrong Jesus!
Jesse Yes Rome did murder many believers. Did you know the Vatican's head inquisitioner in Spain was Tomas Torquemada who was born of a Jewish family. He was responsible for many deaths of believers. Same group who killed Jesus and the apostles. The Jewish encyclopedia documents this fact.
Well if the Bible is right and others teach things that is against what is in the Bible, I am happy to correct them.
How about the lie that Rome killed Jesus? Pilate tried to release Jesus. Yet the lie continues.
John 19:12 And from thenceforth Pilate sought to release (Jesus) him: but the Jews cried out, saying, If thou let this man go, thou art not Caesar's friend: whosoever maketh himself a king speaketh against Caesar.
That is of course if we believe the Bible. I am no fan of the Vatican, but I shall not blame the Vatican for something she did not do.
Truth is not antisemitic. While everyone is looking at Rome, the man of sin aka son of perdition shall rule from Jerusalem.
Judaism is antichrist and a heresy that denies the virgin birth, the atonement and resurrection of Jesus.
1 John 2:22 - Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. (ALL Jews deny Jesus and that makes them antichrist, if they believed in Jesus then they would be CHRISTIANS. IF you do not believe me call any Synagogue and ask them if Jesus is the Messiah.)
1 John 2:23 - Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
If Jews do not accept Jesus as messiah, then who is their messiah?
Those "Messianic Jews" who use Yeshua are also denying the name of Jesus given to Mary by Gabriel in the Greek New Testament, basically denying my King James Bible.
I find it offensive that a certain group claims Mary got pregnant having relations with Pantera, a roman soldier who paid her in silver coins. Maybe we should be happy to be corrected with the Bible?
Out of curiosity, I looked up this Tomas Torquemada that you told me about. I guess what drew my curiosity was how he was born of a Jewish family with the last name Torquemada.
What I found was that he was born in Castile Spain, and his parents names were Pedro Fernandez de Torquemada, and Mencia Ortega.
Those names don't sound Jewish so I was hoping you might be able to share with me the names of the Jewish family you say he was born of. Thank you for your time.
Concerning Torquemada I noticed you did not bother to read the article in the jewish encyclopedia either.
Murray Redstone does not sound Jewish either until you find his birth name was Rothstein oh his family runs CBS.
Communist leader Lenin real name was Ulanov.
Communist leader Lev Bronstein called himself Trotsky.
The founder of the church of Satan called himself Anton LaVey, some claim Howard Stanton, but his birth name was
really Levy.
Jesus in bible book Revelation 2:9 - I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
Leonard Nimoy, Wiliam Shatner, Woody Allen does not sound jewish either.
All I know is if they do not follow Jesus they are cursed as Paul said.
1 Corinthians 16:22 - If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema (CURSED) Maranatha.
I did not know about Tomas Torquemada but thank you for sharing that. I'll take your word on that one since you've read the Jewish encyclopedia. It's not "If the bible is right," because the bible is right. It's our human understanding that is flawed. We study the same bible Bob, but when we come to a different understanding of the text, it's always the other person that is in error. Why is that? Can you please answer that one?
Yes, Pilate tried to release Jesus. In fact, he tried to release two people named Jesus at the same time. If you are questioning whether or not I believe the bible is true, I can assure you that I do. A study of church history would show that the papacy (Vatican) was responsible for putting to death many Christians, so I am not placing blame where blame is not due.
Yes, the man of sin will rule from the temple in Jerusalem once he takes over and demands that people worship him, but we're not told where he comes from. Not all Jews deny Jesus as you claim. That is false.
One thing is for certain, in the end when all the armies gather in the Valley of Megiddo to wipe out the nation of Israel, Christ Himself who will come with His armies, His bride, the church, He will destroy those armies. Israel is under God's powerful protection.
Yeshua was used as a title for Jesus long before the King James Bible was written. Jesus is an English transliteration that comes from Yeshua. So whether He is called Yeshua or Jesus, they both have the same meaning, the Lord is salvation. So if someone says Yeshua, they are not denying the King James at all. If I make an absurd claim like "Mary being impregnated by a Roman soldier," by all means, please do correct me!
You say "Maybe we should be happy to be corrected with the Bible?" I agree with that. You've said some things in the past that have contradicted scripture, but I don't sense that you would be too "happy to be corrected" if I were to point those things out to you so I'll just leave it at that!
Babylon killed the prophets so when you know who killed the prophets you know the identity of mystery Babylon.
..... Rev 18:24 - And in her (Babylon) was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth. babylon was responsible for the BLOOD of PROPHETS.
Rev 16:6 For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy.
Rev 17:6 - And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.
Mystery Babylon killed the prophets
Jesus speaking Luke 13:33 - Nevertheless I must walk to day, and to morrow, and the day following: for it cannot be that a prophet perish out of Jerusalem. for it cannot be that a prophet perish out of Jerusalem.
Jesus - Matthew 23:37 - O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, This is Jesus speaking and telling us who killed the prophets.
When did the Lord send prophets to the USA, Mecca or Rome?
Well apostle Paul went to Rome and he was a prophet.
The book of Revelation is the Revelation of Jesus Christ. It speaks of end-time events and the coming judgment, but also gives us a picture of our Lord Jesus Christ coming in glory. As far as what's going on in our country (U.S.), I see a lot of evil, but that is going on all over the world. The things happening here do not fit into the book of Revelation as far as end-time prophecy is concerned. All end-time prophecy centers around the nation of Israel, not the United States.
Revelation 17:5 mentions the phrase "Mystery, Babylon the Great." In Revelation, Babylon is cryptically known as Rome. Chapter 17 gives us the description of the destruction of Babylon which was shown to the apostle John. It describes this woman who is riding the beast. She is called the great whore that sits upon many waters.
In Revelation 17:6, John sees the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. For many centuries, Rome, under the direction of the papacy tortured, burned, and slaughtered many Christians.
Revelation 17:9 gives us the location of this woman who rides the beast. It's a city that sits on seven hills or mountains. Rome is the only city on this earth that sits on seven hills. John is shown the mystery of this woman, Babylon the great, and her future destruction in Revelation 17:16.
The beast is only going to allow the religious system, the prophet, to ride this beast for so long. And the ten nations are going to give their allegiance to this woman. But when the antichrist is through with her, then he's going to turn against her, as well as the kings because they're going to be on his side, and she's going to be destroyed, this religious system.
Jerusalem's seven hills are the following Mount Scopus, Mount Olivet (Mount of Olives) and the Mount of Corruption (all three are peaks in a mountain ridge that lies east of the old city), Mount Ophel, the original Mount Zion, the New Mount Zion and the hill on which the Antonia Fortress was built, you know the wailing wall where the jews pray at.
Rome was never sent prophets of the Lord. who killed the saints and the Lord?
King James Bible book of John 5:16 - And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sought to slay him, because he had done these things on the sabbath day.
John 5:18 - Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.
John 7:1 - After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in Jewry, because the Jews sought to kill him.
Act 9:23 - And after that many days were fulfilled, the Jews took counsel to kill him
Act 23:12 - And when it was day, certain of the Jews banded together, and bound themselves under a curse, saying that they would neither eat nor drink till they had killed Paul.
Act 26:21 - For these causes the Jews caught me in the temple, and went about to kill me.
Do you see Rome in there anywhere?
Paul in 1 Thessalonians 2:14, 16 - For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, EVEN AS THEY HAVE OF THE JEWS: WHO BOTH KILLED THE LORD JESUS, and their own PROPHETS, and have persecuted us; and THEY PLEASE NOT GOD, and are contrary to all men: Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: FOR THE WRATH IS COME UPON THEM TO THE UTTERMOST.
Revelation 18:24 says Babylon killed the prophets.
In all sincerity, I do thank you for pointing out my error on the seven hills. I just looked it up and you are correct. There are others. Good job! But none of those cities match the description of the seven hill city in Revelation Chapters 17 and 18. We see that this city will be utterly destroyed. You can't tell me that is Jerusalem. There is no place in scripture that tells us that in the end times Jerusalem will be completely destroyed. Quite the opposite! Rome will be destroyed.
You ask me "Who killed the saints and the Lord?" Here's my answer to that. Yes, the Jews were responsible for persecuting those who followed Christ. But so was Rome. You cannot deny that Rome slaughtered and tortured millions of Christians for many centuries.
For the second part of your question, "Who killed the Lord?" You killed him, Bob. You killed Him, I killed Him, and every sinner who has been born into this world killed Him. You can't blame this on the Jews. Jesus Christ came for the sole purpose of dying on the cross. Why did He do this? He did it for you, He did it for me, and He did it for every sinner that has ever been born. We killed Him, Bob. Technically, He freely gave Himself up to death. Had it not of been for our sin, He would not have had to come and die. So yes, you and I killed Him!
Paul tells us who killed Jesus.
Paul in 1 Thessalonians 2:14, 16 - For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, EVEN AS THEY HAVE OF THE JEWS: WHO BOTH KILLED THE LORD JESUS, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and THEY PLEASE NOT GOD, and are contrary to all men: Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: FOR THE WRATH IS COME UPON THEM TO THE UTTERMOST.
Pilate tried to release Jesus, but the priests of the temple threatened Pilate with treason before Rome if he released Jesus.
In all honesty, even though He died on the cross, I don't think anyone could have killed Him. Jesus gave Himself freely to the cross for which He came for. They couldn't have taken Him no matter how many people with clubs and swords came to do it. We see that in scripture when the huge crowd armed with swords and clubs came to take Him, and with just His voice, Jesus blew them all over, twice!
My whole point is that Jesus came here for a reason. He came to die our death because of your sin, my sin, and the sins of the entire world, including the Jews! So to try and place the blame solely on the Jews for killing Him, I can't do that when I am just as guilty of sin, and just as guilty of His death as they were. That's why I say I also killed Him. Maybe you won't agree with me when I say this, but I also died with Him!
Pilate did release Jesus. He just released the wrong Jesus!
Well if the Bible is right and others teach things that is against what is in the Bible, I am happy to correct them.
How about the lie that Rome killed Jesus? Pilate tried to release Jesus. Yet the lie continues.
John 19:12 And from thenceforth Pilate sought to release (Jesus) him: but the Jews cried out, saying, If thou let this man go, thou art not Caesar's friend: whosoever maketh himself a king speaketh against Caesar.
That is of course if we believe the Bible. I am no fan of the Vatican, but I shall not blame the Vatican for something she did not do.
Truth is not antisemitic. While everyone is looking at Rome, the man of sin aka son of perdition shall rule from Jerusalem.
Judaism is antichrist and a heresy that denies the virgin birth, the atonement and resurrection of Jesus.
1 John 2:22 - Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. (ALL Jews deny Jesus and that makes them antichrist, if they believed in Jesus then they would be CHRISTIANS. IF you do not believe me call any Synagogue and ask them if Jesus is the Messiah.)
1 John 2:23 - Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
If Jews do not accept Jesus as messiah, then who is their messiah?
Those "Messianic Jews" who use Yeshua are also denying the name of Jesus given to Mary by Gabriel in the Greek New Testament, basically denying my King James Bible.
I find it offensive that a certain group claims Mary got pregnant having relations with Pantera, a roman soldier who paid her in silver coins. Maybe we should be happy to be corrected with the Bible?
Out of curiosity, I looked up this Tomas Torquemada that you told me about. I guess what drew my curiosity was how he was born of a Jewish family with the last name Torquemada.
What I found was that he was born in Castile Spain, and his parents names were Pedro Fernandez de Torquemada, and Mencia Ortega.
Those names don't sound Jewish so I was hoping you might be able to share with me the names of the Jewish family you say he was born of. Thank you for your time.
Murray Redstone does not sound Jewish either until you find his birth name was Rothstein oh his family runs CBS.
Communist leader Lenin real name was Ulanov.
Communist leader Lev Bronstein called himself Trotsky.
The founder of the church of Satan called himself Anton LaVey, some claim Howard Stanton, but his birth name was
really Levy.
Jesus in bible book Revelation 2:9 - I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
Leonard Nimoy, Wiliam Shatner, Woody Allen does not sound jewish either.
All I know is if they do not follow Jesus they are cursed as Paul said.
1 Corinthians 16:22 - If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema (CURSED) Maranatha.
Yes, Pilate tried to release Jesus. In fact, he tried to release two people named Jesus at the same time. If you are questioning whether or not I believe the bible is true, I can assure you that I do. A study of church history would show that the papacy (Vatican) was responsible for putting to death many Christians, so I am not placing blame where blame is not due.
Yes, the man of sin will rule from the temple in Jerusalem once he takes over and demands that people worship him, but we're not told where he comes from. Not all Jews deny Jesus as you claim. That is false.
One thing is for certain, in the end when all the armies gather in the Valley of Megiddo to wipe out the nation of Israel, Christ Himself who will come with His armies, His bride, the church, He will destroy those armies. Israel is under God's powerful protection.
Yeshua was used as a title for Jesus long before the King James Bible was written. Jesus is an English transliteration that comes from Yeshua. So whether He is called Yeshua or Jesus, they both have the same meaning, the Lord is salvation. So if someone says Yeshua, they are not denying the King James at all. If I make an absurd claim like "Mary being impregnated by a Roman soldier," by all means, please do correct me!
You say "Maybe we should be happy to be corrected with the Bible?" I agree with that. You've said some things in the past that have contradicted scripture, but I don't sense that you would be too "happy to be corrected" if I were to point those things out to you so I'll just leave it at that!
..... Rev 18:24 - And in her (Babylon) was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth. babylon was responsible for the BLOOD of PROPHETS.
Rev 16:6 For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy.
Rev 17:6 - And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.
Mystery Babylon killed the prophets
Jesus speaking Luke 13:33 - Nevertheless I must walk to day, and to morrow, and the day following: for it cannot be that a prophet perish out of Jerusalem. for it cannot be that a prophet perish out of Jerusalem.
Jesus - Matthew 23:37 - O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, This is Jesus speaking and telling us who killed the prophets.
When did the Lord send prophets to the USA, Mecca or Rome?
Well apostle Paul went to Rome and he was a prophet.
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