Susan, your question is difficult to answer as it would require us to judge another person, which only God can do. What I can say, is that anyone who is not a Christian according to Christ's Gospel is destined for Hell, a place of suffering & complete separation from God. See John 3:16: the word 'perish' there is 'an utter, permanent destruction'. We know that the spirit of man can never be destroyed - it will always live on; so this destruction will be the opposite to eternal life with God, & it is eternal death away from God, with the Devil.
So, such a person partaking of Communion is separated from God, destined for hell anyway. Unlike the person who is saved through faith in Jesus' death & resurrection, that person will one day be with God & so Communion is a special time to remember the Lord in His Sacrifice for us & what a great salvation He has given us.
But there are some who put on a 'Christian face' on Sundays, & live despicable lives the rest of the week. That is why the apostle Paul gave the warning in 1 Cor 11:29,30: "For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body. For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep." To those that come to the Lord's Table (Communion) in an unworthy manner (i.e. living a double life of hypocrisy, harbouring unconfessed sin, or even expecting that they can receive some blessing by partaking of Communion), they do it unto "damnation" of their souls & may even experience physical ruin or 'sleep' (a euphemism for death).
If someone is not sure about their salvation, I strongly suggest that they don't partake of Communion & spend time in God's Word & Prayer, so that God may speak to them about their sin & lead them to repentance & salvation. Not knowing if you are saved can be a terrifying state to be in; when a person is truly born again of the Spirit, the Spirit confirms this clearly in the heart, leaving no doubts.
Remember, there is a a lot cults and heresy going around the church. So you cant simplify it and say "become a Christian". And do you not know 1 Corinthians 6:2 and 6:4-5? Here is it"2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?" and "4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.
5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?"
Though it depends on how you judge one another. In this case we should judge every doctrine even if it is your church or mine! Hope this gives you understanding.
Then most and it is strange no one else understands the guy told me there is onl - In Reply on Revelation 22 - 4 years ago
I totally get what you were saying here, It makes more sense than you could ever possibly imagine when it is compared to whom Jesus told me I was. I have literally lived this all Roman family and all. Well Italian that is. I know what God told me when I died in surgery three years ago, and then after the Holy Spirit came on me I carried too long in the Old "Jew-Ruselum". Thus, I "fell back to Earth because I did not heed the call I was sent back to do". Don't forget Jesus comes to say did you first then the gentile are well I can give you another word but it probably would not be the best to put. I am my father's daughter and I can only do or say what my father taught me. He was like a king Solomon a very wise man who grew up at a very young age and I was his mini me. So I see things in a whole different dimension Then most, and it is strange no one else understands the guy told me there is only one way!
AMEN AND AMEN. What is righteous and just and well, God show me I am a Libra a true Libra at that and my entire life I can only judge based on all of the wrongful judgment that was placed on me since childhood. Righteous and true our gods judgments because only God can understand all the brokenness and hurts and what others are feeling or have been through.
Just because you are a christian dosent mean you will be saved. It is more complicated than that. First of all you need to have faith. Second, you need to humble yourself and be submissive to God. Third, you will need to pray for the Holy Spirit. Fourth you will need the Holy Spirit withstand every demon that is going to come against you.
Exit Questions and go to the Community Area and click on steps to become a Christian. If you want to be sure...this the way we all had to go. Taking communion without being a Christian and not forgiving people who've hurt you, can heap condemnation on you.
Just follow the steps. This website actually has a brown box out on the entry page you can click on(today)
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If you feel compelled to take your first step towards God, you can do that right now wherever you are.
1. Acknowledge the Problem: We have all sinned, and that sin separates us from God
No matter how good you think you are, no matter how many good things you try to do, it is still not good enough to get into heaven; it can't be earned but is a gift.
"For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God" Romans 3:23
"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." Romans 6:23
"And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man. For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness; all these evil things come from within, and defile the man." Mark 7:20-23
2. Discover the Solution: Jesus
The only way for God to bridge the gap between Himself and us is through His Son, Jesus Christ. His death was a substitute for us; He paid the penalty for our sins.
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." John 3:16
"For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God." I Peter 3:18
"Neither is there salvation in any other; for there is no other name under Heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." Acts 4:12
We live in a time where Satan seeks to distort and complicate the Gospel making you doubt it's truths. This has been so through the ages. Christ wants us to come to him as little children with the faith, love and belief as little children.
2nd Cor. 11
3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
The Gospel of Jesus Christ is simple. Eternal life is promised for those who believe. This is made clear again and again and again.
Faith, Belief and related words are mentioned nigh 600 times in the New Testament alone. What are the scriptures telling us?
The scriptures are clear that it is grace through faith and not works. How can the unrighteous do works to gain righteousness? They cannot for all have sinned.
Jesus Christ through the sacrifice of his atoning blood paid the price for our sins. All we can do is believe, have faith, believe in this free gift of grace. Believe that Christ is the Son of God, God in the flesh who knew no sin, who was sacrificed for our sin. It takes the blood of the innocent to atone for the sins of the guilty. Christ is that sacrifice. He is the Lamb without spot.
After 3 days Christ arose defeating death. Sin and death vanquished not by our works but by the work of Christ sent by God the Father.
Not only does he give those that believe eternal life, he declared his righteousness on us who have no righteousness.
Repentance is the turning toward Christ. Repentance is Godly sorrow, knowing that without Christ we are doomed to a Devil's Hell.
Once we turn toward Christ with faith and belief we are saved. This is the Grace of God. Our sins are forgiven, all of them. Our bodies may continue to sin but our soul, our spirit is saved.
Paul's message about communion was to the gentile Corinthians who still held onto their pagan traditions of feasting and brought that into the Church as communion.
Off course Last Supper and Communion are not pagan.
My point was the Greek Corinthians had brought drinking and feasting into the church even in communion.
Also Paul's instructions to the Corinthians about hair, head coverings and women being silent is in response to the Greek Pagan tradition of female oracles.
Susan lucarelli, The bread and wine in church are symbolic.... to Discern the LORDS body goes waaaay deaper than communion in the church.... This speaks of what "FOOD" we take into our body. im not talking about actual edible substance here like eggs or cheese in an overall sense. even though in the old testament there are plenty of warnings of what to eat and what not to eat.... im talking about the spiritual food we ingest. For we cannot serve both GOD and mammon. Also im NOT trying to be impolite but your second comment you made is incorrect thinking ( i speak this as one whom had the same type of thinking for over 25 years now). Paul speaks of this: When someone has been done wrong they JUSTIFY their own behavior (not saying you are, but i did, and i encourage you if you are not to let that hinder you on the BAD stuff you have been through. ) Dont let it change your choices in life. perfect example for myself is this: My friend Chris smoked pot in front of me today even though i was trying to quit, I said if he is gonna smoke it in front of me then i might as well smoke it myself (self justification). That is how i was for many many years. I also suffered from deppression and anxiety so i understand how you feel. I only ask you for you to take into consideration my words and if you want me to backup the scripture paul speaks of id be glad to search for it for you. Steve
So, such a person partaking of Communion is separated from God, destined for hell anyway. Unlike the person who is saved through faith in Jesus' death & resurrection, that person will one day be with God & so Communion is a special time to remember the Lord in His Sacrifice for us & what a great salvation He has given us.
But there are some who put on a 'Christian face' on Sundays, & live despicable lives the rest of the week. That is why the apostle Paul gave the warning in 1 Cor 11:29,30: "For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body. For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep." To those that come to the Lord's Table (Communion) in an unworthy manner (i.e. living a double life of hypocrisy, harbouring unconfessed sin, or even expecting that they can receive some blessing by partaking of Communion), they do it unto "damnation" of their souls & may even experience physical ruin or 'sleep' (a euphemism for death).
If someone is not sure about their salvation, I strongly suggest that they don't partake of Communion & spend time in God's Word & Prayer, so that God may speak to them about their sin & lead them to repentance & salvation. Not knowing if you are saved can be a terrifying state to be in; when a person is truly born again of the Spirit, the Spirit confirms this clearly in the heart, leaving no doubts.
5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?"
Though it depends on how you judge one another. In this case we should judge every doctrine even if it is your church or mine! Hope this gives you understanding.
"Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
In the prayer request room I do meet people who have spiritual needs that greatly exceed what their religion provides to them.
Have a blessed evening.
Just follow the steps. This website actually has a brown box out on the entry page you can click on(today)
**************************
If you feel compelled to take your first step towards God, you can do that right now wherever you are.
1. Acknowledge the Problem: We have all sinned, and that sin separates us from God
No matter how good you think you are, no matter how many good things you try to do, it is still not good enough to get into heaven; it can't be earned but is a gift.
"For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God" Romans 3:23
"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." Romans 6:23
"And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man. For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness; all these evil things come from within, and defile the man." Mark 7:20-23
2. Discover the Solution: Jesus
The only way for God to bridge the gap between Himself and us is through His Son, Jesus Christ. His death was a substitute for us; He paid the penalty for our sins.
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." John 3:16
"For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God." I Peter 3:18
"Neither is there salvation in any other; for there is no other name under Heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." Acts 4:12
We live in a time where Satan seeks to distort and complicate the Gospel making you doubt it's truths. This has been so through the ages. Christ wants us to come to him as little children with the faith, love and belief as little children.
2nd Cor. 11
3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
The Gospel of Jesus Christ is simple. Eternal life is promised for those who believe. This is made clear again and again and again.
Faith, Belief and related words are mentioned nigh 600 times in the New Testament alone. What are the scriptures telling us?
The scriptures are clear that it is grace through faith and not works. How can the unrighteous do works to gain righteousness? They cannot for all have sinned.
Jesus Christ through the sacrifice of his atoning blood paid the price for our sins. All we can do is believe, have faith, believe in this free gift of grace. Believe that Christ is the Son of God, God in the flesh who knew no sin, who was sacrificed for our sin. It takes the blood of the innocent to atone for the sins of the guilty. Christ is that sacrifice. He is the Lamb without spot.
After 3 days Christ arose defeating death. Sin and death vanquished not by our works but by the work of Christ sent by God the Father.
Not only does he give those that believe eternal life, he declared his righteousness on us who have no righteousness.
Repentance is the turning toward Christ. Repentance is Godly sorrow, knowing that without Christ we are doomed to a Devil's Hell.
Once we turn toward Christ with faith and belief we are saved. This is the Grace of God. Our sins are forgiven, all of them. Our bodies may continue to sin but our soul, our spirit is saved.
Paul's message about communion was to the gentile Corinthians who still held onto their pagan traditions of feasting and brought that into the Church as communion.
Which is where Paul passed on that message to the Gentiles. (We being grafted in). It's not pagan if Jesus instituted it.
Luke 22
15. And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer:
16 For I say unto you, I will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God.
17 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, Take this, and divide it among yourselves:
18 For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come.
19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: THIS DO in remembrance of me.
20 Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.
My point was the Greek Corinthians had brought drinking and feasting into the church even in communion.
Also Paul's instructions to the Corinthians about hair, head coverings and women being silent is in response to the Greek Pagan tradition of female oracles.
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