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BIBLE DISCUSSION THREAD 136790

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  • William on Malachi 3 - 4 years ago
    My wife tells me that you can lose your salvation by not giving your tithes ,I can say I am not sure about this,we are saved by the the Grace of our Father in Heaven.

    Can anyone offer any info about this .

    Thank you
  • Mark 414 18-20 TITHING - In Reply on Malachi 3 - 4 years ago
    I heard this parable as a new Christian. I didn't really understand at first. I just did it as an act of obedience:

    18 And these are they which are sown among thorns; such as hear the word,

    19 And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful.

    20 And these are they which are sown on good ground; such as hear the word, and receive it, and bring forth fruit, some thirtyfold, some sixty, and some an hundred.

    Jesus is THE SOWER (verse 14). He gives the Increase according to the willingness of the heart. There's another scripture that says to give it with cheerfulness.

    I know that the money is increased in my life: learning of the Word of God, healing, pizza on my table; prayers answered for my family.

    I know satan fights against it because he immediately rushes in to argue about new tires, limping appliances, etc. He doesn't want us to be obedient in anything.
  • RevJones - In Reply on Malachi 3:10 - 4 years ago
    Trust in the lord,and lean not to your understanding but depend on him.
  • Bob Hilt - In Reply on Malachi 3 - 4 years ago
    Well the tithe was to support the Priest tribe of Levi in the old testament.

    Numbers 18:24 But the tithes of the children of Israel, which they offer as an heave offering unto the LORD, I have given to the Levites to inherit: therefore I have said unto them, Among the children of Israel they shall have no inheritance.

    It was to support the tribe that did the work of the Lord for the Tabernacle.

    TV preachers who claim you must tithe, to them of course, should MUST prove that they are of the tribe of Levi and are worthy to receive the tithe on behalf of the Lord. IF NOT send them nothing. If they are not of Levi then you are not tithing.

    Jesus never said anything about losing salvation over tithes and neither did the apostles.

    I suggest you ask the wife to show where this is since I can not find this doctrine.

    Offerings yes and they were to be given willingly as one felt led.

    Should we help the less fortunate or buy Jet fuel for the TV preachers Lear Jet?

    Jet fuel is sure expensive as is the upkeep on mansions.
  • Jesse - In Reply on Malachi 3 - 4 years ago
    William,

    You are correct. Salvation is by the grace of God. It is God who saves us and it is God who keeps us saved. We can't keep ourselves saved. We have to ask ourselves who are we trusting in as far as our salvation goes? Are we trusting in our own human work and effort, or are we trusting in God? If our salvation or loss of is dependent upon what we do or do not do, then it is no more of grace. There is nothing that reverse our physical birth, and there is nothing that can reverse our Spiritual birth. If it were not for the power of God's grip and His power to keep me saved, my flesh would walk away right now. So again, we have to ask, are we trusting in our fleshly work to keep us saved, or are we trusting in God's power? I know who I'm trusting. And apart from Him and His power to keep me, I'm a goner! Salvation cannot be lost. Salvation is all of God. The only thing I contributed to my salvation was the sin from which I needed to be saved from. Hopefully your wife will come to know that her salvation is not dependent upon what she does or does not do, but upon the power and grace of God. Jesus has taken up residence in my life and He promised that He will never leave me. So if He never leaves me, which He has promised, then I have eternal life because I have Christ, an He is eternal. I hope this helps. God bless!!!
  • Adam - In Reply on Malachi 3 - 4 years ago
    I believe we aren't truly 'saved' until we're judged after this life. But I believe grace covers those who genuinely seek and follow Jesus- a Christian is a Christ follower. If someone doesn't follow Christ they won't be saved, and I believe if a Christian stops following Christ and follows the world or satan instead I believe they are not saved. If a Christian commits blasphemy of the holy spirit they aren't saved either. But there is nothing in the Bible about tithing and salvation being connected.



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