Bible Discussion Thread

Do you know why Jesus told his disciples to not go into any city of the Samaritans?

Jesus was appointed to preach to the Jews first. The Samaritan woman was considered Gentile.

The gospels show that on occasion, He did speak of ministry to certain Gentiles.

The answer is because they were part Jewish and gentle. They were consider dogs.

Hello Frank, Sorry, I think I called you Mike in a response I made to you but am unable to find now.. :) I just discovered this bible discussion site and have not learned how to access responses even though I'm told to go to a certain numbered thread... do you think it was odd that Jesus spent 2 days with what you are saying were believed as dogs with the many of them believing he was the Christ prior to his leaving their city?

Hello Mike, So are you saying that according to what Jesus said here in Matthew 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

that these ones you are calling dogs, were some of the lost sheep of the house of israel? Why would Jesus have stayed with them for 2 days after speaking to the woman at the well? Lynn

I had an email saying Jackie had responded to my question with this response...

"They preach the Kingdom of God to the Jews 1st And they've rejected it And after that Samaritan's and the gentiles were invited in"

However, for some reason, I am not able to bring up the response...

The reason I asked the question was to see if anyone knew the real story that began with the woman at the well and how Jesus ended up going and staying with the Samaritans for 2 days and they all ended up believing on him as the Christ, the Messiah... so there was no need for the disciples to go to Samaria for they all knew who the Christ was...The thing is, this was all prior to Jesus's death and resurrection, even though we do know that he had said originally he was sent only unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel...I have never talked with anyone that seems to know this story about the Samaritans, that was a continuation of the story of the woman at the well... :)

They preach the Kingdom of God to the Jews 1st And they've rejected it And after that Samaritan's and the gentiles were invited in

Hello Jackie,

Here is the section from the book of John where Jesus ended up staying with the Samaritans for 2 days after speaking with the woman at the well..

John 4:39 And many of the Samaritans of that city believed on him for the saying of the woman, which testified, He told me all that ever I did.

4:40 So when the Samaritans were come unto him, they besought him that he would tarry with them: and he abode there two days.

4:41 And many more believed because of his own word;

4:42 And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.

4:43 Now after two days he departed thence, and went into Galilee.

I was mainly curious to see if others had seen this story of these Samaritans believing on the Lord Jesus Christ prior to his death and resurrection and prior to anyone believing it was not yet time for the Gentiles to receive the message...

Hello Jackie, Thank you for your response... It finally showed up, so it must have been entered after i received the email saying you had responded... Please see the other comment I made in response to yours... Lynn :)

Thanks good point now I have one for you why did moses break the 10 Commandments

Hello Jackie, Short answer, Moses had an anger problem... Just like when he whacked the rock when God told him to "speak" to it... :)

Perhaps it was a type of Adam And mankind Who broke the law right away Because they could not keep it The 2nd set is a type of Jesus Who was put in the Ark and never broken

The 1st set was made by God the 2nd set was made by God and man Typeof our Lord and savior Jesus cross

Thanks for your response and may God-bless you and your family always

Hello Jackie,

I've never heard the breaking of the law explained that way before, however, we know that Adam was never under the Law so not sure if I could see him or his generation being involved with breaking the Law... We learn from Paul that Adam's death penalty that he received for his transgression, reigned until the time of Moses, then God gave Moses the Law of Sin and Death, to give to the Israelites and the strangers that chose to live with them... That Law reigns until the time of Jesus's death on the cross...The cross made it possible to free anyone that believes that Law applies to them to be freed from it and to be able to live their lives alive In Christ, free from the Law of Sin and Death...

If you are simply meaning the breaking of the first set of stone tablets versus the 2nd set of stone tablets, I still see it that Moses broke the first set because he was angry that the Israelites had built and were worshiping the golden calf they had made as their false god...

Then Joshua went back up on the mountain with Moses and the 2nd set of tablets was made... It would appear that even though the Israelites were a stiff necked bunch that they were not worshiping a false god when Moses and Joshua returned the 2nd time....

I'm not able to connect Adam with the Law because the Law came after his death and he was never party with God to the Law...God told Adam the day that he eats from the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil, he will surely die...

Most folks believe that death penalty meant physical death, but we know that cannot be true because Adam went on to physically live for about 700 years... The death penalty Adam received was needing to be reconciled back to God, I call that spiritual death instead of physical death... Spiritual death simply means, anyone that believes they and all others are sinners is spiritually dead and that person needs to be reconciled to God via gaining an understanding of the purpose of the cross...

Have a great day...

Adam or rather Yet Eve broke the 1st Law That God commanded thou shalt not eat of it. So Adam had to eat of it to be with his wife (type of jesus)for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. Gen.2:16-17

He eat of it and died a spiritual death that day and was stripped of his Glory coat and the eyes of them both were opened and they knew that they were naked Gen 3:7

And God judged satan and judged Eve and He judged Adam.

And gives the promise of the Seed (jesus) Genesis 3:15

Then God starts to give providence of the seed jesus unto Adam also and to his wife did the Lord God made coats of skins and clothed them. Genesis 3:21

The passover lamb jesus

God said in the day you eat of it you will surely die. But that day they did not die But what died that day? A Lamb died a innocent lamb that had done nothing Blood was shed and his skin take off for a covering for Adam and Eve.

The Innocent dying so the Guilty could Live The Cross

They were sentenced to death But a Lamb dies in stead of Adam and eve like. Genesis 22:13

Or we could say they died that day Because one day is with the Lord as a thousand years and no man lived a thousand years 2 Peter 3:8

But I prefer The Passover Lamb Jesus

Thank you for debating the Word of God with me I love the word of God and learning about Jesus may God bless you and your family always. A sinner saved by Grace

Hello Jackie,

I do enjoy hearing your interpretation of God's Word and I think it's wonderful that you love to discuss the Word.

What I'm hearing you say here is that you believe God's Word was the 1st Law. And yes, that could be absolutely true in a sense. If we were to believe that, we'd have to make absolutely sure of the difference between Covenant Law and the Law that is written in the heart and mind.

The thing is there was no Law for sin at the time of Adam, therefore sin was not imputed at that time and this is the reason he and all others were considered sinners even though they had never sinned. All these folks at that time tried to win back God's favor thru offerings as you noted.

I agree with the lamb being sacrificed as the first blood covering. Good insight on your part. :) I believe it must have been quite a shock for A&E to see this killing and blood for the first time.

My viewpoint is each person needs to understand that sin became defined via the Covenant Law that God gave to Moses to give to the Israelites. When one agrees to be party with God to just one jot or tittle of the Covenant Law they automatically become a sinner until they are freed from the Covenant Law because God made the Law purposely so that no one was able to keep it without breaking it.

Most religions have used bits and pieces of the Covenant Law to form their religious doctrine which causes many problems for many people.

The Covenant Law brings in the need for a Savior and we know that takes place at the cross.

Thank you for your question regarding the breaking of the Law... Lynn :)

How was they saved if they had no savior

Did they eat of the tree life?

Jesus went through Samaria himself and preached to the Gentiles himself so they could be saved. John chapter 4, Isaiah 42, Isaiah 49, Isaiah 60:3, Luke 2:32, Acts 26:23.

Hello Jackie, Do you mean Adam & Eve? If, so they were never saved. They physically died as sinners and they were spiritually dead, out of favor with God, all the days of their lives. God chose the people that He wanted to communicate with in those times.

No, they, A&E did not eat from the Tree of Life. No one got to eat from the Tree of Life until they passed thru the cross, meaning until they believed Jesus died for their sins and the sins of all mankind.

For ex: I know that no one is a sinner unless they have been taught to believe that is what they are.



1John 3:4-9 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Have a great day, Joy to You. Lynn :)

I agree to disagree

Why then was the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world Rev 13:8?

Hello Jackie,

The word "world" must be understood properly. God created ALL that is a part of the "world" in which one lives. The lamb in Genesis was simply to clothe A&E physically (their flesh) in place of the garments they had made that were not as durable.

I agree that event was symbolic of God's future plan, however that "world" of the flesh comes to an end for all those that understand the foundation that was laid at the cross for the "world" of the Spirit for ALL that were/are freed from sin.

In other words, one "world" is the old "world" of sin, and the other is the new "world" for those that know and understand their freedom from sin.

The first "world" is the "world" one lives in according to the flesh. The new "world" is the "world" one lives when being led of the Spirit.

The new "world" began the moment Jesus Christ was resurrected from the dead, meaning Jesus was the foundation of the beginning of new "world".

Have a great day, Joy to You, Lynn