My Pastor said that not only the fallen angels procreated with the daughters of Adam, but that the result of the act between Satan and Eve was Cain. This seems to make sense to me because God then separates the seed of Satan from the seed of Eve and pronounces issues with birth for Eve and all women after that. Why else would God talk about these things. And when God went to talk to Adam and Eve after they sinned, they wrapped fig leaves around their loins, not their mouth if they ate an apple. It seems to all fit.
You need to get a Bible With center of page Reference Columns (tiny alphabet letters). It gives you additional information about each scripture that has one or more.
Abel brought a BLOOD sacrifice to God. (For without the shedding of blood there is no remission for sin).
Cain didn't think about that. He had PRIDE in his offering and felt that was good enough for God. He disrespected God. God rejected his offering and as a result Cain was cursed.
Cains response is to murder Abel.
Adam and Eve were married by God. God performed the first marriage. All Hebrew marriages after that were performed the same way.
Leaves were their idea of quick clothing. Adam knew they had sinned by eating the fruit. It has nothing to do with what someone imagined that Eve (a married woman) did with Satan. He tempted her with food and then power. The very same way he tried to tempt the Lord, Jesus Christ; after 40 days of fasting.
There is no scripture that says Eve and Satan had relations. Adam was heartbroken that Eve had eaten of the fruit and he took a bite because he loved her; he didn't want to be separated from her.
First thing God does is curse Satan. Then He prophesies a future day (at the cross) Genesis 3:15 about her seed: Jesus, bruising satans head.
Then came the prophesy that she and all women would suffer in childbirth.
Back to Cain: Jesus's bloodline DID NOT come through Cain. Eve had another son named SETH, with Adam. By all means go Google a genealogy chart on Jesus so you can see it with your eyes. His bloodline is in the Bible Also. Your Pastor was mistaken.
We, as Gods children bear a solemn responsibility to verify every scripture ourselves, from the KJV Bible...that the Pastor issued on the teaching. If we don't read scriptures slow, and look up all those Center Of Each Page Reference Columns; we may miss out on a gem of Truth.
Take another look at it and tell me what you think.
Thanks for your comments, questions and suggestions.
I believe that Abel brought a blood sacrifice because he was a "keeper of sheep" and Cain brought an offering "of the fruit of the ground" because he was a "tiller of the ground." The difference between the two offerings was that Abel brought his offering of the "firstlings of his flock, and of the fat thereof" while Cain's offering was common "fruit of the ground." Abel cared deeply about his offering to his Father and Cain cared less. I don't think blood sacrifice was set up by God for mankind for remission of sins at that time.
I think that Cain received a curse from God as a result of murdering Abel, not his disrespectful offering to God.
I am not sure if the thought that Eve and Adam were seduced by Satan is entirely an imagined thing because the NT says that Eve was beguiled, and that word in Greek means "wholly seduced." That means Adam was also, and the reason homosexuality began then also. And I guess the question might need to be asked is why Adam and Eve eating an apple would result in them being ashamed of their nakedness, or need clothes for covering their private parts, or separation of seed, or increasing birth pangs? To me, it seems to all add up and make sense.
If the tree of the knowledge of good and evil bringing forth literal fruit that is both good and evil, and this is all Satan has to work with, how hard would it be to resist him? It looks like Satan beguiles Eve with the subtle twisting of the words of God, and probably not a piece of fruit. That's just what seems to make sense to me.
It might be that Eve was tempted with the ability to "as gods" become closer to God, and this closeness would be a result of experiencing this thing called "evil" the her and Adam were unaware of. I believe that Satan was the most beautiful creature Eve had ever seen, and it made seduction easier.
The bloodline of people that eventually would give birth to the Son of Man, Jesus; came through Seths branch of the Geneology.
Reading genealogies in the Bible truly tells a story that is often missed. Generally women were not recorded, unless their story intertwined with Jesus's story.
You can Google Charts of Abraham's genealogy ( which was made from the Bible); Jesus's, and others. They generally follow after the story of someone's life ends, in the Bible.
Enoch was born through Cains history. He walked with God; one day God must've said, you come home with Me today. Enoch did not die. That's why people think he will be one of the Two Witnesses.
I lean more towards, "The Law and the Prophets" of the Old Testament: which would be Moses and Elijah. But I could be wrong too. The whole world will see them on the Internet.
Enoch was born through Cains history. He walked with God; one day God must've said, you come home with Me today. Enoch did not die. That's why people think he will be one of the Two Witnesses.
True and False.
There was an Enoch in Cain's Genealogy, yes, and there was an Enoch in Seth's Genealogy. They're were two different Enoch's. You'll notice how close Cain's genealogy matches up with Adam's Genealogy. This is done deceive to and is symbolic of not following the wrong line....
You'll notice Cain's bloodline in chapter 4. Many of Cain's offspring end in "Bal" Where else do we see Baal in the bible??
Which brings me back to the subject. The original poster ask if Cain was the offspring of Satan, not Adam. Since Cain is not in Adam's Genealogy, I would agree with his pastor's interpretation.
Hi Mishael, just noticed your reply about Genesis 6 giants/Nephilim. If you don't think they're from angels and humans, then what do you think that verse means?
After the flood, they were no more. They had no BODY to make babies with. Ever since then, they have had no fleshly body; big, little, giant, petite.
DEMONS are invisible. They gain illegal access to humans, who give that illegal access. But demons are invisible body cannot produce (can I say it?) fluids.
Unless you are discussing spiritual warfare ?? Why are you focusing on this? I'm curious.
As far as the bloodline of Cain, both him and Abel are listed in the generations of the heavens and the earth, and not with the generations of Adam, which, like you said, begins with Seth. Cain is given his own generational line. My pastor said that women can have twins from two different fathers and I checked it out and science says it can happen. That could explain an answer for Cain being the son of Satan and Abel being the son of Adam. I know that my family genealogy does not randomly put my two uncles in different genealogies because one is a murderer and the other was murdered. Why wouldn't they be listed under the generations of Adam like Seth is if they were Adam's children? And then Cain and Seth have two different generation lines. It makes sense to me only if they are two different seed lines, other wise what's the need?
Anyway, my pastor says that the reason Satan aimed his sights at the seduction of eve was two fold. It accomplished Adam to first partake in sin, getting him kicked out of eden, and then it disrupted the seed line that the Messiah would now need to come from, which is what Seth became.
My Pastor may be mistaken concerning all of this, but I think he is correct because I don't see how all the terminology relating to seduction, seed, birth pangs, separated genealogies, two fathers, and all other scripture relating to it points to something else or is because of eating forbidden fruit.
Plus, Jesus Christ is coming back looking for us to be chaste virgins. This can't be literal, so I think it relates to apostasy and idolatry which is the Spiritual version of being unfaithful to God, like adultery is for man and woman between each other. Do you see how it all seems to come full circle?
Plus if you look the giants survived the flood because it says "also after that" which as far as I see relates to being after the time of the flood of Noah. And I don't think a flood can kill angels. It was sent to get rid of the hybrid giants and evil man.
There's more scriptures on after the flood event. The demons actually rail on Satan for their loss. I may not have that til Saturday, because I have to take someone to the hospital; be their driver.
You can search 'inhabitants' and find some of them: the ones that are mentioned with satan.
It might be that Eve was tempted with the ability to "as gods" become closer to God, and this closeness would be a result of experiencing this thing called "evil" the her and Adam were unaware of. I believe that Satan was the most beautiful creature Eve had ever seen, and it made seduction easier.
How can Satan be the most beautiful creature Eve had ever seen. Satan was in the head of the woman that's why a woman is born of man but Adam could not see her being deceived to be able to stop it because Adam was made in the image of God for he would not know that Eve was being deceived from Satan that was in her mind so Satan can't be a creature. Or else Adam would have stopped Eve from talking to Satan. It's a spiritual battle people
Are these children the giants of Genesis 6:2-4?
My Pastor said that not only the fallen angels procreated with the daughters of Adam, but that the result of the act between Satan and Eve was Cain. This seems to make sense to me because God then separates the seed of Satan from the seed of Eve and pronounces issues with birth for Eve and all women after that. Why else would God talk about these things. And when God went to talk to Adam and Eve after they sinned, they wrapped fig leaves around their loins, not their mouth if they ate an apple. It seems to all fit.
Abel brought a BLOOD sacrifice to God. (For without the shedding of blood there is no remission for sin).
Cain didn't think about that. He had PRIDE in his offering and felt that was good enough for God. He disrespected God. God rejected his offering and as a result Cain was cursed.
Cains response is to murder Abel.
Adam and Eve were married by God. God performed the first marriage. All Hebrew marriages after that were performed the same way.
Leaves were their idea of quick clothing. Adam knew they had sinned by eating the fruit. It has nothing to do with what someone imagined that Eve (a married woman) did with Satan. He tempted her with food and then power. The very same way he tried to tempt the Lord, Jesus Christ; after 40 days of fasting.
There is no scripture that says Eve and Satan had relations. Adam was heartbroken that Eve had eaten of the fruit and he took a bite because he loved her; he didn't want to be separated from her.
First thing God does is curse Satan. Then He prophesies a future day (at the cross) Genesis 3:15 about her seed: Jesus, bruising satans head.
Then came the prophesy that she and all women would suffer in childbirth.
Back to Cain: Jesus's bloodline DID NOT come through Cain. Eve had another son named SETH, with Adam. By all means go Google a genealogy chart on Jesus so you can see it with your eyes. His bloodline is in the Bible Also. Your Pastor was mistaken.
We, as Gods children bear a solemn responsibility to verify every scripture ourselves, from the KJV Bible...that the Pastor issued on the teaching. If we don't read scriptures slow, and look up all those Center Of Each Page Reference Columns; we may miss out on a gem of Truth.
Take another look at it and tell me what you think.
Mishael
Thanks for your comments, questions and suggestions.
I believe that Abel brought a blood sacrifice because he was a "keeper of sheep" and Cain brought an offering "of the fruit of the ground" because he was a "tiller of the ground." The difference between the two offerings was that Abel brought his offering of the "firstlings of his flock, and of the fat thereof" while Cain's offering was common "fruit of the ground." Abel cared deeply about his offering to his Father and Cain cared less. I don't think blood sacrifice was set up by God for mankind for remission of sins at that time.
I think that Cain received a curse from God as a result of murdering Abel, not his disrespectful offering to God.
I am not sure if the thought that Eve and Adam were seduced by Satan is entirely an imagined thing because the NT says that Eve was beguiled, and that word in Greek means "wholly seduced." That means Adam was also, and the reason homosexuality began then also. And I guess the question might need to be asked is why Adam and Eve eating an apple would result in them being ashamed of their nakedness, or need clothes for covering their private parts, or separation of seed, or increasing birth pangs? To me, it seems to all add up and make sense.
If the tree of the knowledge of good and evil bringing forth literal fruit that is both good and evil, and this is all Satan has to work with, how hard would it be to resist him? It looks like Satan beguiles Eve with the subtle twisting of the words of God, and probably not a piece of fruit. That's just what seems to make sense to me.
It might be that Eve was tempted with the ability to "as gods" become closer to God, and this closeness would be a result of experiencing this thing called "evil" the her and Adam were unaware of. I believe that Satan was the most beautiful creature Eve had ever seen, and it made seduction easier.
Is Cains' genealogy. It ends with Seths birth.
The bloodline of people that eventually would give birth to the Son of Man, Jesus; came through Seths branch of the Geneology.
Reading genealogies in the Bible truly tells a story that is often missed. Generally women were not recorded, unless their story intertwined with Jesus's story.
You can Google Charts of Abraham's genealogy ( which was made from the Bible); Jesus's, and others. They generally follow after the story of someone's life ends, in the Bible.
Enoch was born through Cains history. He walked with God; one day God must've said, you come home with Me today. Enoch did not die. That's why people think he will be one of the Two Witnesses.
I lean more towards, "The Law and the Prophets" of the Old Testament: which would be Moses and Elijah. But I could be wrong too. The whole world will see them on the Internet.
Mishael
True and False.
There was an Enoch in Cain's Genealogy, yes, and there was an Enoch in Seth's Genealogy. They're were two different Enoch's. You'll notice how close Cain's genealogy matches up with Adam's Genealogy. This is done deceive to and is symbolic of not following the wrong line....
You'll notice Cain's bloodline in chapter 4. Many of Cain's offspring end in "Bal" Where else do we see Baal in the bible??
Which brings me back to the subject. The original poster ask if Cain was the offspring of Satan, not Adam. Since Cain is not in Adam's Genealogy, I would agree with his pastor's interpretation.
If you opt to stay on earth....it's going to be burned with fire (as in cleansed).
DEMONS are invisible. They gain illegal access to humans, who give that illegal access. But demons are invisible body cannot produce (can I say it?) fluids.
Unless you are discussing spiritual warfare ?? Why are you focusing on this? I'm curious.
They had no bodies any longer. That's when they became invisible. Ephesians 6.
They could get into unprotected, unrighteous humans; but they cannot procreate anymore.
Evil human beings can let their bodies be possessed by demons: as in witches.
Born again people can be Oppressed, but NOT possessed. The need prayer of agreement to be relieved.
Anyway, my pastor says that the reason Satan aimed his sights at the seduction of eve was two fold. It accomplished Adam to first partake in sin, getting him kicked out of eden, and then it disrupted the seed line that the Messiah would now need to come from, which is what Seth became.
My Pastor may be mistaken concerning all of this, but I think he is correct because I don't see how all the terminology relating to seduction, seed, birth pangs, separated genealogies, two fathers, and all other scripture relating to it points to something else or is because of eating forbidden fruit.
Plus, Jesus Christ is coming back looking for us to be chaste virgins. This can't be literal, so I think it relates to apostasy and idolatry which is the Spiritual version of being unfaithful to God, like adultery is for man and woman between each other. Do you see how it all seems to come full circle?
Plus if you look the giants survived the flood because it says "also after that" which as far as I see relates to being after the time of the flood of Noah. And I don't think a flood can kill angels. It was sent to get rid of the hybrid giants and evil man.
You can search 'inhabitants' and find some of them: the ones that are mentioned with satan.
I did my best, Lord Jesus. Please undertake this child, open his eyes to see Your Truth, and not someone else's.
You have no need that any man teach you, because if you are born again and received the Holy Spirit; He Is Your Teacher.
John 16
We are told over and over; Jesus said, FOLLOW ME.
It might be that Eve was tempted with the ability to "as gods" become closer to God, and this closeness would be a result of experiencing this thing called "evil" the her and Adam were unaware of. I believe that Satan was the most beautiful creature Eve had ever seen, and it made seduction easier.
How can Satan be the most beautiful creature Eve had ever seen. Satan was in the head of the woman that's why a woman is born of man but Adam could not see her being deceived to be able to stop it because Adam was made in the image of God for he would not know that Eve was being deceived from Satan that was in her mind so Satan can't be a creature. Or else Adam would have stopped Eve from talking to Satan. It's a spiritual battle people
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