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BIBLE DISCUSSION THREAD 143697

Bible Discussion Thread

 
  • Roger Winters on Ephesians 2:10 - 4 years ago
    Is it doctrine or or spiritual ignorance that causes preachers and teachers to speak as if Jesus dropped down from heaven as if to bypass the miraculous birth? Is a miracle birth not sufficient to establish the utter supremacy of God? Can a person gifted by the Holy Spirit to preach the Gospel preach that Jesus is God without distinction though Jesus grew in stature and wisdom and God never had a beginning nor will have and end and Jesus, the Only Begotten said, as recorded in Luke 22:37, "For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me HAVE AN END".?

    Can great and wise theologians, as they are esteemed to be, utter such things as "...when God died on the cross for us..." and "when Jesus raised himself from the dead"? How can it be that they supposedly have studied the Scripture?

    That's part of the problem. They speak what the Bible calls great swelling words saying things like the Bible is the infallible inerrant word of God. They dismiss the need to rightly divide the word. Two things were infallible and inerrant. The Ten Commandments and the Son of God. God filled Jesus who, being perfect except for the flesh, could be touched without being corrupted because He was filled with God. We normal humans must invite God. Jesus was filled with God at birth. As a man, He had to learn God through the Scripture. He grew in wisdom. He quoted the Scripture and challenged others to study. Though He had a mission to perform, He wasn't eager for it. He asked His Father if there might be another way but deferred to Gods will over His own. Just study and know. The OT is Scripture- it came by God speaking to the prophets of old. The NT is God speaking to us through Jesus. It is cannon. It's about the only name given UNDER heaven for salvation of the soul. All others have a horrendous destiny. Look in the Bible then look in the streets. It is Biblical and time is short.



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