Bible Discussion Thread

In Heb 2:14 was Jesus successful in destroying the Devil that tempted him or not??:

He's gonna be around until the bitter end. He'll be locked up in hell until the 1000 years are met.

HE (CHRIST) might destroy him (the devil); v.14 = Here, the Greek verb root (; pronounced "kat-arg-EH-"), translated here into "destroy", does not mean to totally "annihilate" the devil into nothingness, for Satan ("the devil") will eternally endure the torments of the Lake of Fire ( Rev. 20:10). Yet, the devil will always retain his evil essence, nature, personality, character, and reputation in his opposition.

The verb "destroy" describes GOD removing Satan's power over death, particularly his power of death over the redeemed saints of GOD. GOD has abolished Satan's power over death for their sake making death ineffective and powerless over them. The physical fleshly bodies of the redeemed will continue to wither and die due to their carnal sinful nature, "for as in Adam all die" ( 1Cor. 15:22). Yet, for the redeemed, physical death ushers them into the very Presence of their REDEEMER to experience and enjoy Eternal Life.

GOD rescues ("saves") HIS people from ultimately dying eternal death ( 1Cor. 15:22 & 25-26):

"[22] in CHRIST shall all (the redeemed) be made alive. [25] For HE (CHRIST) must Reign, till HE hath put all enemies under HIS Feet. [26] The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death."

Phillip, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

In you comments you quoted:

1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam ALL die, even so in Christ shall ALL (redeemed) be made alive.

Do you think the ALL in Adam, is a different ALL than the ones made alive; or is it the same people being delivered from death to life. IS ALL, ALL; or is ALL, SOME.

The wisdom of this world is foolishness to God.

1 Timothy 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, WHO IS THE SAVIOUR OF ALL MEN, specially those who BELIEVE.

Is the ALL in this verse the same ALL as in 1 Corinthians 15:22; or is it a different ALL (maybe it to only means some).

Of the adjective "all" recorded twice in First Corinthians 15:22 = As with all Scriptures, Biblical hermeneutics requires interpreting this verse within its context. First, Paul spoke strictly to "ye [which] are saved" (v.2), identifying only believing Christians. Next, he used the exclusive pronoun "our" (v.3) to apply CHRIST's death strictly for the sins of those whom HE saves.

Obviously, CHRIST's Salvific Work is sufficient to save all, but proves efficient only for the elect (e.g. 2Thes. 2:13; 1Pet. 1:2).

Paul dedicated the entire context of this chapter ( 1Cor. 15) to the Death, Burial, and Resurrection of CHRIST (vv. 3-9) as irrefutable proof (vv. 20-21) that all GOD's people will experience the same Resurrection as did CHRIST (vv. 22-23; 42-44; cp. Rom. 6:5).

The unsaved will not experience this glorious "Resurrection of Life", but rather and sadly, "they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation" ( Jn. 5:29).

Paul used the all-inclusive adjective "all" to include every individual whom GOD saves in CHRIST JESUS. First, every individual believer ("all") will physically die because all inherit Adam's sin nature at birth ( Rom. 5:12). Second, CHRIST will make every individual believer ("all") alive at the eschatological Resurrection ( Jn. 11:24-25).

The expression, "in CHRIST shall all be made alive" ( 1Cor. 15:22), most certainly does not teach or guarantee universal Salvation for every individual born into this world, for Inspired Scripture does not so much as even imply such a heresy. Such repugnant false doctrine blasphemes GOD's Righteous Justice.

Actually, Scriptures repeatedly prove most will not come to JESUS CHRIST, GOD's MEDIATOR ( 1Tim. 2:5) for Salvation as CHRIST proclaimed ( Mt. 7:13): "For wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat."

The adjective "all" does include every individual "whosoever" of whom CHRIST included in HIS Salvific Proclamation, "whosoever believeth in HIM should not perish, but have Everlasting Life" ( Jn. 3:16).

Even JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF clearly stated HE did not come to provide universal Salvation, for two Gospel writers quote CHRIST as proclaiming of HIMSELF, "The SON OF MAN came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give HIS Life a Ransom for many" ( Mt. 20:28; Mk. 10:45). In these two verses, the adjective "many" translates from the Greek adjective (transliterated "polus"' pronounced "po-LOOS") which speaks of a well-defined selection of individuals out of the whole whom CHRIST chose and elected to save.