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Meaning of John 2 or 3 -8. People born of the Spirit ???? Can't pull verse up to read or have discussion about meaning

Can you help ?? To explain what he means by not knowing people born with the Spirit ???

Patricia, are these the verses you're thinking of?

John 3:5-8: "Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit."

In this passage, Jesus was speaking to Nicodemus, a Jewish religious leader, who approached Jesus to have a chat. He came discreetly at night to Jesus to avoid the possible gossip amongst his peers about this encounter. He also came with a great confirmation: "Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him." Jesus could have replied & told him what he probably wanted to hear, "Nicodemus you have correctly spoken about Me so God accepts you", but I believe that Jesus, as He usually did, looked at his heart & motive, when he answered him with verses 5-8 (above).

Jesus could see that Nicodemus wanted Him, as a Rabbi (Teacher) to congratulate him & confirm His goodness, yet Jesus told him that a spiritual re-birth was necessary before you can be congratulated & confirmed by God. We are born once into the world & die & suffer coming judgement. But those who are born again, not by a natural birth, but a spiritual birth, will not die spiritually & not come under condemnation & judgement ( Romans 8:1).

But if this is not the answer you're looking for, then if you could please explain further your question "by not knowing people born with the Spirit"?

Here is some verses that will help:

1 Corinthians 15

22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?

36 Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:

37 And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain:

38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.

39 All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.

40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.

41There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.

42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:

43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:

44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

47The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.

48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.

49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

Romans 6:23 - For the wages of sin [is] death; but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.