Only this week I discovered responses in my little used email account.
mishael, you answered my post, but not my question. That's evasion, but is it intentional? Free of what? Free of what? Free of what?
"People are given freewill." Really? Free of what? Anyone claiming we have a free will is saying we are free of sin and not dead in trespasses and sin, before being saved, so who needs Christ?
Hi Bill, you raised an interesting question the way you put it, I would like to comment, I think we are born dead in trespasses and sin, We have been given the law which is to show us we come up short of Gods requirement for salvation, Now the wages of sin is death, Jesus died on the cross and paid for the sins of the world for all who believe. We who believe was put in Christ and baptised in his death, and when he rose from the dead we were raised with him in newness of life, " Romans 6:3-4. That's why the scripture says we must be born again, "born from above" now we have been sent a savior, "Jesus Christ" now we are given a "choice" if we accept his redemptive blood or not, now i don't know if you call that free will or choice.
Hi Stephen, I didn't find your response till Jan8. When were you given the "choice"? Was it while you were dead or alive? I believe the dead have no choice and the living see no other. He saved me, he died for me, it was true at that instant I first saw, now and forever.
Irresistable grace is the work of quickening unbelivers to life, to recognize the truth/Jesus. Salvation is more than a rational decision of the human will. You can't say to God, "I chose you, therefore, you are obligated to save me." That's not by grace, and makes a substantial difference in the believers perspective on their salvation and behavior. Grace is never conditional, or would you suggest it is?
The confidence in what we believers have, is entirely a personal conviction. That is, while I might believe you do have it, only you know, and I will have to wait to see you in the hereafter.
I don't know how to converse with you more directly, but I wouldn't mind hearing from you on this again.
mishael, you answered my post, but not my question. That's evasion, but is it intentional? Free of what? Free of what? Free of what?
"People are given freewill." Really? Free of what? Anyone claiming we have a free will is saying we are free of sin and not dead in trespasses and sin, before being saved, so who needs Christ?
Irresistable grace is the work of quickening unbelivers to life, to recognize the truth/Jesus. Salvation is more than a rational decision of the human will. You can't say to God, "I chose you, therefore, you are obligated to save me." That's not by grace, and makes a substantial difference in the believers perspective on their salvation and behavior. Grace is never conditional, or would you suggest it is?
The confidence in what we believers have, is entirely a personal conviction. That is, while I might believe you do have it, only you know, and I will have to wait to see you in the hereafter.
I don't know how to converse with you more directly, but I wouldn't mind hearing from you on this again.
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