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I have heard many sermons the Christ died for all our sins past, present and future doesn't that contradict what we read in this chapter of Hebrews? Does it say anywhere in the bible that a sin commuted knowingly and willingly can be forgiven? I read here in starting in verse 26 that you cannot not that only but the punishment that will go with it, so is the punishment damnation or loss or rewards. Can one truly be forgiven and be restored to the Lord or is there a line here on earth that once crossed all is lost. This is the last time I will ask a question about this subject at times it can bring me and others to despair i know others that say they can't find the holy spirit and yet prayers have been answered. There are many people who think they have lost their salvation, many.
The Holy Spirits Ministry to you by Mishael - In Reply on Hebrews 10 - 4 years ago
JOHN 16
The Work of the Holy Spirit
"I did not say these things to you from the beginning, because I was with you. 5But now I am going to him (Father) who sent me, and none of you asks me, 'Where are you going?' 6But because I have said these things to you, sorrow has filled your heart. 7Nevertheless, I tell you the truth: it is to your advantage that I go away, for if I do not go away, the Helper (HOLY SPIRIT) will not come to you. But if I go, I will send him to you. 8And when HE comes, HE will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment: 9concerning sin, because they do not believe in ME; 10concerning righteousness, because I go to the Father, and you will see me no longer; 11concerning judgment, because the ruler of this world (Satan) is judged.
12"I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. 13When the Spirit of truth comes, HE will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he HEARS, he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come. 14He will glorify me, for he will take what is mine and declare it to you. 15All that the Father has is mine; therefore I said that he will take what is mine and declare it to you.
Other passages that will help you to get back in step with the Holy Spirit:
2 Titus
1 John 1, particularly the prayer in verse 9
Isaiah 1:16-19
If we stubbornly persist in satisfying fleshly over-indulgence, sex sins, copying worldly ways of living, etc. we KNOW when we are falling away.
The Holy Spirit comes to convict you; to do His Work again. That "knowing" that you sense in your spirit, is HIM. So listen and do respond to His urging.
Another thing we are to do: is to move from "baby Christian" to growing up in Christ. Not reading in the New Testament of the Bible, leaves us vulnerable. Decide who you are following: the world, or the Lord, Jesus? The Holy Spirit is your TEACHER. Ask him your questions. Listen
When these apostates left, they would have not had any convictions about their actions - they were cast off to join the throng of Christ-rejecters, & more so, having also once been partakers of the Spirit's offerings (6:4-6, shows the same warning there also). For the believer, all sin is forgivable, except for blasphemy & here, in rejecting Christ after having received the Gospel of Truth, & their fate is certain. Therefore, Christ's death did deal with all manner of sins & God looks only on that Perfect Sacrifice that was able to accomplish it. What we do with that salvation subsequent to hearing & receiving it, it's up to us & remains before God. If we should slip up & sin, Christ's Blood continues to clean. If we choose to live in sin & say we are Christians, then we have to re-examine our lives & see what has gone wrong with our belief system & repent quickly & be born again by the Holy Spirit.
Oftentimes, we Christians look at a Scripture & form a judgement. It's always a good practise to learn as much as you can about a Bible book in regards to the authorship, readership, reasons for writing, etc. Hebrews was written primarily to Jews who had converted to Christ or likely, appeared to do so. So, unlike Gentile converts, these Jews had a lot of the OT already in their minds & so the writer had to deal with much of that. We can't go into that here; as you read this epistle with that in mind, you will see some of these hurdles they had to overcome.
Hebrews 10:26,27, is one of those warnings given. It was directed to some who had or were planning to leave the faith (apostatize); in other words, they wanted to reject Christ & His salvation preferring to return to Judaism. Hence the 'sin' spoken of in v26, is the sin of Christ rejection by turning back to Judaism. So the writer goes on in v28,29, that if those who wilfully disobeyed the Law in times past were executed for their crime, how much more worthy will be the punishment for any who now consider the Sacrifice of Christ as a useless vain offering, showing hatred to God's gracious Work.
The Work of the Holy Spirit
"I did not say these things to you from the beginning, because I was with you. 5But now I am going to him (Father) who sent me, and none of you asks me, 'Where are you going?' 6But because I have said these things to you, sorrow has filled your heart. 7Nevertheless, I tell you the truth: it is to your advantage that I go away, for if I do not go away, the Helper (HOLY SPIRIT) will not come to you. But if I go, I will send him to you. 8And when HE comes, HE will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment: 9concerning sin, because they do not believe in ME; 10concerning righteousness, because I go to the Father, and you will see me no longer; 11concerning judgment, because the ruler of this world (Satan) is judged.
12"I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. 13When the Spirit of truth comes, HE will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he HEARS, he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come. 14He will glorify me, for he will take what is mine and declare it to you. 15All that the Father has is mine; therefore I said that he will take what is mine and declare it to you.
Other passages that will help you to get back in step with the Holy Spirit:
2 Titus
1 John 1, particularly the prayer in verse 9
Isaiah 1:16-19
If we stubbornly persist in satisfying fleshly over-indulgence, sex sins, copying worldly ways of living, etc. we KNOW when we are falling away.
The Holy Spirit comes to convict you; to do His Work again. That "knowing" that you sense in your spirit, is HIM. So listen and do respond to His urging.
Another thing we are to do: is to move from "baby Christian" to growing up in Christ. Not reading in the New Testament of the Bible, leaves us vulnerable. Decide who you are following: the world, or the Lord, Jesus? The Holy Spirit is your TEACHER. Ask him your questions. Listen
When these apostates left, they would have not had any convictions about their actions - they were cast off to join the throng of Christ-rejecters, & more so, having also once been partakers of the Spirit's offerings (6:4-6, shows the same warning there also). For the believer, all sin is forgivable, except for blasphemy & here, in rejecting Christ after having received the Gospel of Truth, & their fate is certain. Therefore, Christ's death did deal with all manner of sins & God looks only on that Perfect Sacrifice that was able to accomplish it. What we do with that salvation subsequent to hearing & receiving it, it's up to us & remains before God. If we should slip up & sin, Christ's Blood continues to clean. If we choose to live in sin & say we are Christians, then we have to re-examine our lives & see what has gone wrong with our belief system & repent quickly & be born again by the Holy Spirit.
Oftentimes, we Christians look at a Scripture & form a judgement. It's always a good practise to learn as much as you can about a Bible book in regards to the authorship, readership, reasons for writing, etc. Hebrews was written primarily to Jews who had converted to Christ or likely, appeared to do so. So, unlike Gentile converts, these Jews had a lot of the OT already in their minds & so the writer had to deal with much of that. We can't go into that here; as you read this epistle with that in mind, you will see some of these hurdles they had to overcome.
Hebrews 10:26,27, is one of those warnings given. It was directed to some who had or were planning to leave the faith (apostatize); in other words, they wanted to reject Christ & His salvation preferring to return to Judaism. Hence the 'sin' spoken of in v26, is the sin of Christ rejection by turning back to Judaism. So the writer goes on in v28,29, that if those who wilfully disobeyed the Law in times past were executed for their crime, how much more worthy will be the punishment for any who now consider the Sacrifice of Christ as a useless vain offering, showing hatred to God's gracious Work.
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