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John chapter one is showing how God works through his son , not that the Son is God but The Son of God Jesus is Gods way of reaching men . Jesus is Gods instrument not Jesus being God and acting as God only can . It's the father working through the Son .
The Son may not be God the Father, but He has all the attributes of the Father, which makes Him intrinsically & indivisibly part of the Godhead. After all, if the Word of God (that which proceeds from the Mouth of God), was given flesh (humanity), then it stands to reason that this Humanity (now called Jesus, God's Son) comes directly from the Godhead.
God could have done the same with His Spirit within Him, but the requirement for His Word that went out to His people (the Jews) by the prophets ( Hebrews 1:1,2), would now not only have God speaking directly to them rather than the prophets which they generally rejected, but that Word would even lay down His Life for them. And for this, Israel remains condemned by God for rejecting Him (i.e. the Father & Son).
You're right Brandon, I could do everything possible for my son to be like me in character, spiritual awareness & direction in life & even if I succeeded, he would still always be my son, a separate human being in his own right.
But one cannot hold to such thinking of God, compelling Him to replicate or be confined to the limitations & humanness of our minds & ways. He is the One from Whom it was written that He could create out of stones, children unto Abraham ( Luke 3:8). If we think in human terms, then yes, Jesus is only a (created) Son of God. If we abide by the Scriptures, then Jesus Who is the Image of the Invisible God, is more than a 'spittin image' of the Father - He has the very Image, Character, Essence of God's Holiness & Being, of the Father, having proceeded from Him. And that is why John 1:1-14 becomes a very difficult passage for non-trinitarians, because they can never give another explanation to it, as its declaration is abundantly clear: the Word that came from God became flesh. And apart from Jesus, I don't think that those verses could apply to any other.
"For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."
Verse 4 John chapter 1
4 ) In him was life, and that *life* was the light of men.
The Bible is the true inerrant Word of God. It says in John 1:
1 ) In the begginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 ) He was with God in the beginning.
3 ) Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.
4 ) In him was life, and that light was the light of men.
5 ) The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it.
God is a triune being:
Father
Son
Holy Spirit
Three persons but One God.
Jesus the Son spoke the universe into existence. Jesus is the Word. Jesus has many names. God has many names.
We must be careful to not lead people astray. We should only comment on God and the Bible by using scripture to support our beliefs.
With love and prayers,
God could have done the same with His Spirit within Him, but the requirement for His Word that went out to His people (the Jews) by the prophets ( Hebrews 1:1,2), would now not only have God speaking directly to them rather than the prophets which they generally rejected, but that Word would even lay down His Life for them. And for this, Israel remains condemned by God for rejecting Him (i.e. the Father & Son).
If you trained him up well , he would be just as you are , yet not you . You are head over your son and always will be .
But one cannot hold to such thinking of God, compelling Him to replicate or be confined to the limitations & humanness of our minds & ways. He is the One from Whom it was written that He could create out of stones, children unto Abraham ( Luke 3:8). If we think in human terms, then yes, Jesus is only a (created) Son of God. If we abide by the Scriptures, then Jesus Who is the Image of the Invisible God, is more than a 'spittin image' of the Father - He has the very Image, Character, Essence of God's Holiness & Being, of the Father, having proceeded from Him. And that is why John 1:1-14 becomes a very difficult passage for non-trinitarians, because they can never give another explanation to it, as its declaration is abundantly clear: the Word that came from God became flesh. And apart from Jesus, I don't think that those verses could apply to any other.
"For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."
Brandon, i hope this helps you have faith in Jesus as "The mighty God, The everlasting Father" and, therefore, part of the Godhead.
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