I apologize for being stern but what the majority of the church/denominations teach regarding sunday and the commandments dont add up compared to scripture and i dont understand why
Because we focus on Sunday and Sabbath and concentrate around Sunday and Sabbath only. We did not understand anything.
We have search the scripture thinking that in them we have eternal life ( John 5: 39) but we did not understand, see and know God and God's ways.
It does not Matter if anyone worship on Sabbath or Sunday, but if one can faithfully follow the laws and words of God in the Bible can control himself to be right with God and later when dead can have eternal life. He or she will keep every days (1 to 7) holy and be right with God. This will be the true meaning of Sabbath and the Commandment and Sunday.
Xaviar- In this warfare the Sabbath of the fourth commandment will be the great point at issue, for in the Sabbath commandment the Great lawgiver identifies himself as Creator of heavens and earth.
Reasons For Keeping The Sabbath
Ex 31: 13 Speak thou unto the children of Israel, saying, verily my Sabbaths you shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that does sanctify you.
Ezek 20:12 Moreover also I gave them my Sabbaths: and they shall be a sign between me and you,That ye may know that I am the LORD that sanctify them.
Ezek 20:20 And hallow my Sabbaths: and they shall be a sign between me and you, that ye may know that I am the LORD your GOD. God's Holy law is as unchangeable as his throne, and is from everlasting to everlasting,
It may not matter to some what day you keep Holy. But it matters to God! Their has only been one day sanctified Blessed and hallowed by God it is Saturday.The man of sin, it is declared in Daniel, "shall think to change times and laws,"
Rev 14:8 And their followed another angel saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city ,
because she made all nations drink of the wine of the of wrath of her fornication. The fourth commandment says REMEMBER the Sabbath Day to keep it Holy. No one can change the Law of God but God himself. For God has said their is no shadow of turning within me . I am the Lord Thy God I Change Not. Blessings.
Colossians 2:13-17. And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
Some churches preach to this day that Jesus abolished the Ten Commandments when He died on the cross. They proclaim this assumption by using Ephesians 2:15 as their basis of evidence, which says. "Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances;..." The obvious truth here is, that the verse states that it was the Commandments contained in ORDINANCES that was abolished at the cross. Not the Ten Commandments contained in stone. The passage in Colossians 2:14-17 has also been used to preach the Commandments abolished. But if you read it you will find it was, "Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances", again that is mentioned in that passage. According to the Word of God, these ordinances were "added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made" ( Galatians 3:19) It's rather clear to see here that the "commandments contained in ordinances" were added by Moses for a specific reason. If we read the passage again we see it also states these ordinances were only added TILL the seed should come. And who was this seed according to Scripture? Galatians 3:16 boldly proclaims, "thy seed, which is Christ."
The commandments contained in ordinances were added by Moses thousands of years ago as a way to prepare the people for the FIRST arrival of Messiah. They showed their faith in the coming Messiah by keeping the ordinances on a regular basis. When Jesus died on the cross, the ordinances were no longer needed because he fulfilled them by all He did while visiting us as Messiah. The "ordinances" were a series holy days, new moons, and Sabbath days that were to be considered a "shadow of things to come." The word "ordinance" is NOT the same as the word "commandment." where in the Ten Commandments does it speak of "meat and drink?" Nowhere do we find such statements in the Law of God.
Sandra, I do agree with what you've said about the 'law of commandments contained in ordinances', that the reference here is not to the Ten Commandments but to those other laws pertaining to sacrifices, new moons, sabbaths, etc., but not just these only, but all the Law was fully met by Jesus & then abrogated at the Cross.
"The Law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good", but its usefulness, effectiveness & applicability became redundant at the Cross. For sin, taking its authority from the commandment, 'slew' Paul, because that was all the Law could do. What Paul hoped that the Law would give him life, instead only brought him death. So he said that "with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin."
Was Paul saying that he was still going back to God's Laws, obeying in them in his mind & allowing his flesh to sin? No. In the very next verses he says in Romans 8:1-4: "There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit." The Law of sin & death (the Ten Commandments & not just the Law contained in Ordinances, but the whole) which slew him, he now rejected, but rather a new Law of the Spirit had taken its place & brought him freedom & power to fulfil the righteousness of the Law.
And Galatians 3:19, as you quoted, doesn't refer to the Ordinances but to the Law - indeed that whole Chapter 3 is devoted to pointing the believers from depending on the 'works of the Law' to the application of faith through the Spirit.
The stone tablets (Ten Commandments) were written by the Creator Himself with His own finger. The Ten Commandments represent God's character. Also, the first 4 commandments reveal our obligation to God the Creator ("Love the LORD your God with all your heart, soul, and mind"); and the last 6 commandments reveal our obligation to our fellow man ("Love your neighbor as yourself"), as outlined by Jesus Christ. The Ten Commandments, being a revelation of God's character, are unchanging and permanent. To demonstrate our love for God and His Son, Jesus Christ, is to conduct our lives in harmony with the Ten Commandments.
The stone tablets were placed inside the ark, because the ark represented the living presence of God among the people, and the Ten Commandments are His character.
The book of ordinances that was written on parchment by Moses were the laws and ceremonies connected with the blood sacrifices, which were offered as atonement for sin. The sacrifices, and the ceremonies and laws connected with them were symbolic of--pointed forward to--the Messiah, Jesus Christ, who was the Lamb of God--the Lamb that takes away the sins of the world. The entire temple and its divisions represented the coming Messiah. The altar of sacrifice represented His death; the laver represented the Water of Life (Christ) and the washing away of sins; the shewbread represented Christ, who is the Bread of Life; the seven candlesticks represented Christ, who is the Light of the World; and the Most Holy Place represented the presence of God the Father, who was reflected by Christ ("If you have seen me, you have seen the Father").
When Christ began His ministry,He resisted Satan's temptations in the wilderness immediately after His baptism, was crucified on Friday, rose from the dead on Sunday morning, and shortly thereafter ascended to His Father with the promise to return and redeem His faithful followers, He fulfilled all of the symbolism contained in the ordinances, special sabbaths,
What a mighty Scripture portion you've shared. Thank you Steven. And people miss that little phrase tucked away: "which are a shadow of things to come". The "body" might cast a shadow, but the "shadow" becomes insignificant when the body is present. Our focus must be on the "body" to which the things in the shadow point to.
Chris please let me continue ... and sacrificial laws contained in the book that Moses wrote on parchment and placed beside the Ark of the Covenant. Just as the parchment was perishable--would eventually disintegrate--so it was with the laws of sacrifice. Upon Christ's death on the cross, the curtain in the temple, between the Holy Place and Most Holy Place, was torn in two, from top to bottom, by God's own hands, indicating that the real sacrifice of the Lamb of God, which the daily temple sacrifice symbolized, had paid the ultimate sacrifice to atone for our sins. There was no more need for sacrifice. We have been redeemed by Jesus' mercy and grace, not by the "shadows of things to come". All the symbols of the sacrificial laws had been fulfilled, therefore, in symbolic terms, the sacrificial laws were "nailed to the cross". The cross WAS the altar upon which Jesus Christ, the Messiah, was sacrificed for our sake.
The entire Old Testament tells of our fall and of God's plan of redemption. The entire New Testament tells of Christ's sacrifice for our sins and His plan to return, gather His faithful ones, put an end to sin, and recreate the earth as it was before sin entered. Sin, death, illness, and dying will be no more.
The stone tablets containing the 10 Commandments are the immutable, permanent, unchanging will and character of God.
"For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth." Romans 10:4
Which law spells out forgiveness? Had I a choice to only break one of the ten in my lifetime, no matter which I choose, forgiveness isn't there. Righteousness by the law was fulfilled by only one person, the Lord Jesus. That righteousness is what is imputed to those who believe, therefore, those who believe are under no obligation to do, what only Jesus did. However, once the love of God is received it shows in the life of a believer, perhaps not always perfectly, but it grows in their earthly lifetime.
It is the pride of the flesh to think that before the law a person lacks nothing. Matthew 19:30
"Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith." Galatians 3:24
"To demonstrate our love for God and His Son, Jesus Christ, is to conduct our lives in harmony with the Ten Commandments." It is pride that attaches eternal life to the letter of the law. "For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ." 1John 1:17 The law is in the sphere of the work of the Holy Spirit, John 16:8, "And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment". Believers testify of Christ's, grace and truth. I have no doubt the Holy Spirit within a believer will not lead them to violate any of the ten commandments, because the righteousness of Christ exceeds the letter of the law.
Thank you Sandra for your detailed explanation of your understanding of the Law & the Book of Ordinances. I do agree with much of what you've written. However, still the Scripture, Romans 8:1-4 niggles at us, to which you've not referred to directly.
How do you reconcile that Scripture with what you believe? In other words, what is Paul referring to here in Romans 8: the Law contained in the Commandments, or the Book of Ordinances, or both?
We have search the scripture thinking that in them we have eternal life ( John 5: 39) but we did not understand, see and know God and God's ways.
It does not Matter if anyone worship on Sabbath or Sunday, but if one can faithfully follow the laws and words of God in the Bible can control himself to be right with God and later when dead can have eternal life. He or she will keep every days (1 to 7) holy and be right with God. This will be the true meaning of Sabbath and the Commandment and Sunday.
Reasons For Keeping The Sabbath
Ex 31: 13 Speak thou unto the children of Israel, saying, verily my Sabbaths you shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that does sanctify you.
Ezek 20:12 Moreover also I gave them my Sabbaths: and they shall be a sign between me and you,That ye may know that I am the LORD that sanctify them.
Ezek 20:20 And hallow my Sabbaths: and they shall be a sign between me and you, that ye may know that I am the LORD your GOD. God's Holy law is as unchangeable as his throne, and is from everlasting to everlasting,
It may not matter to some what day you keep Holy. But it matters to God! Their has only been one day sanctified Blessed and hallowed by God it is Saturday.The man of sin, it is declared in Daniel, "shall think to change times and laws,"
Rev 14:8 And their followed another angel saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city ,
because she made all nations drink of the wine of the of wrath of her fornication. The fourth commandment says REMEMBER the Sabbath Day to keep it Holy. No one can change the Law of God but God himself. For God has said their is no shadow of turning within me . I am the Lord Thy God I Change Not. Blessings.
Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
The commandments contained in ordinances were added by Moses thousands of years ago as a way to prepare the people for the FIRST arrival of Messiah. They showed their faith in the coming Messiah by keeping the ordinances on a regular basis. When Jesus died on the cross, the ordinances were no longer needed because he fulfilled them by all He did while visiting us as Messiah. The "ordinances" were a series holy days, new moons, and Sabbath days that were to be considered a "shadow of things to come." The word "ordinance" is NOT the same as the word "commandment." where in the Ten Commandments does it speak of "meat and drink?" Nowhere do we find such statements in the Law of God.
"The Law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good", but its usefulness, effectiveness & applicability became redundant at the Cross. For sin, taking its authority from the commandment, 'slew' Paul, because that was all the Law could do. What Paul hoped that the Law would give him life, instead only brought him death. So he said that "with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin."
Was Paul saying that he was still going back to God's Laws, obeying in them in his mind & allowing his flesh to sin? No. In the very next verses he says in Romans 8:1-4: "There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit." The Law of sin & death (the Ten Commandments & not just the Law contained in Ordinances, but the whole) which slew him, he now rejected, but rather a new Law of the Spirit had taken its place & brought him freedom & power to fulfil the righteousness of the Law.
And Galatians 3:19, as you quoted, doesn't refer to the Ordinances but to the Law - indeed that whole Chapter 3 is devoted to pointing the believers from depending on the 'works of the Law' to the application of faith through the Spirit.
The stone tablets were placed inside the ark, because the ark represented the living presence of God among the people, and the Ten Commandments are His character.
The book of ordinances that was written on parchment by Moses were the laws and ceremonies connected with the blood sacrifices, which were offered as atonement for sin. The sacrifices, and the ceremonies and laws connected with them were symbolic of--pointed forward to--the Messiah, Jesus Christ, who was the Lamb of God--the Lamb that takes away the sins of the world. The entire temple and its divisions represented the coming Messiah. The altar of sacrifice represented His death; the laver represented the Water of Life (Christ) and the washing away of sins; the shewbread represented Christ, who is the Bread of Life; the seven candlesticks represented Christ, who is the Light of the World; and the Most Holy Place represented the presence of God the Father, who was reflected by Christ ("If you have seen me, you have seen the Father").
When Christ began His ministry,He resisted Satan's temptations in the wilderness immediately after His baptism, was crucified on Friday, rose from the dead on Sunday morning, and shortly thereafter ascended to His Father with the promise to return and redeem His faithful followers, He fulfilled all of the symbolism contained in the ordinances, special sabbaths,
The entire Old Testament tells of our fall and of God's plan of redemption. The entire New Testament tells of Christ's sacrifice for our sins and His plan to return, gather His faithful ones, put an end to sin, and recreate the earth as it was before sin entered. Sin, death, illness, and dying will be no more.
The stone tablets containing the 10 Commandments are the immutable, permanent, unchanging will and character of God.
"For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth." Romans 10:4
Which law spells out forgiveness? Had I a choice to only break one of the ten in my lifetime, no matter which I choose, forgiveness isn't there. Righteousness by the law was fulfilled by only one person, the Lord Jesus. That righteousness is what is imputed to those who believe, therefore, those who believe are under no obligation to do, what only Jesus did. However, once the love of God is received it shows in the life of a believer, perhaps not always perfectly, but it grows in their earthly lifetime.
It is the pride of the flesh to think that before the law a person lacks nothing. Matthew 19:30
"Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith." Galatians 3:24
"To demonstrate our love for God and His Son, Jesus Christ, is to conduct our lives in harmony with the Ten Commandments." It is pride that attaches eternal life to the letter of the law. "For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ." 1John 1:17 The law is in the sphere of the work of the Holy Spirit, John 16:8, "And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment". Believers testify of Christ's, grace and truth. I have no doubt the Holy Spirit within a believer will not lead them to violate any of the ten commandments, because the righteousness of Christ exceeds the letter of the law.
Sandra, Are all your sins forgiven?
How do you reconcile that Scripture with what you believe? In other words, what is Paul referring to here in Romans 8: the Law contained in the Commandments, or the Book of Ordinances, or both?
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