Emily Abrams, Spencer is right. You can only be confident in your own relationship/experience with God, and other people in theirs. If you trust Christ to have paid for all your sins, what's left? It is hard for a sinner to accept the grace of God, that is, you do nothing to earn salvation, but you are led of God's spirit to love him in return by yielding to his leading you to make good choices. "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance(self control): against such there is no law." Galatians 5:22&23 For as long as a believer is on this Earth, their character is being changed to a likeness of Christ. The more often you cooperate, the farther you go in the changes, despite the old nature which you will not lose until the body dies.
More often than not, believers can point to a time where God made himself known to them as their Savior. Something like a before and after situation. The title of savior becomes something more than just a teaching, but very personal, to you for you, forever.
Hi Emily, Excuse me poor ability to text, I meant salvation is something we should know we have, " Something we should know ". Hope that helps, There's people on this site can elaborate on this matter and articulate it much better than I can, Thanks
Absolutely, Emily. When Christ died for our sins was it past sins, present sins, future sins, are all our sins? I think our focus as Christians or professing Christians is to examine ourselves to see whether we're in the faith or not, If you got it you can't loose it, AND IT IS SOMETHING YOU SHOULD KNOW.
I believe it is once save always save, however you can fall from grace if you sin and continue to sin or commit the same sin over and over. You have to repent and ask God for forgiveness.
Hi Sheryl, I second what Mild Bill said, and to add to that, If a person is living in sin he or she might want to examine themselves, they shouldn't be in bondage to sin. Romans 6:1-6. What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
Romans 8:10-15. And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. Thanks
In the conditions you describe,"the fall from grace", is a situation of broken fellowship with God, not a total loss of salvation. Gross sin, or presumptuous sins may plague a believer, and thereby strain their relationship to God, and the way to correct that status is as you said, repent and ask forgiveness. For example, your children, can either be pleasant and agreeable or ornery and difficult, in either case, they never stop being your children. Christians of all depths/ages/maturity, work out their own experience of being saved, some do better than others. The father of the prodigal son, had two sons. The one who remained with his father also had issues that the father had to deal with. God does not throw out the baby with the bath water, and keeping them clean, is given his full attention. Hebrews 10:30&31"For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God."
More often than not, believers can point to a time where God made himself known to them as their Savior. Something like a before and after situation. The title of savior becomes something more than just a teaching, but very personal, to you for you, forever.
God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
Romans 8:10-15. And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. Thanks
"however you can fall from grace."
In the conditions you describe,"the fall from grace", is a situation of broken fellowship with God, not a total loss of salvation. Gross sin, or presumptuous sins may plague a believer, and thereby strain their relationship to God, and the way to correct that status is as you said, repent and ask forgiveness. For example, your children, can either be pleasant and agreeable or ornery and difficult, in either case, they never stop being your children. Christians of all depths/ages/maturity, work out their own experience of being saved, some do better than others. The father of the prodigal son, had two sons. The one who remained with his father also had issues that the father had to deal with. God does not throw out the baby with the bath water, and keeping them clean, is given his full attention. Hebrews 10:30&31"For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God."
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