What is The Communion Paul speaks of at Table of The Lord? I am asking here because I came up as a Roman Catholic and now after 61 years I am looking at the receiving of a physical communion at Mass as possibly being sin. Why am I asking God The Father to accept another sacrifice each Sunday though a Priest when Christ's sacrifice on the cross was and always will be The Sufficient Sacrifice allowing me to seek forgiveness directly with God The Father through Christ Jesus? Need some help here as I'm unclear at the moment.
Question: Why do we have to do - confession of our sins, repent or turn away from sins often? To keep us holy, without sins. Why? Because sins grieve the Holy Spirit in our hearts, which guides, direct us to do what is right and pleasing to God. As Christians we go through trials, problems - God uses this to purge us from our prideful self, selfish human desires, so that God can merge his Holy Spirit with our human spirit - molding us to become in the image and likeness of our Lord Jesus.
God loves us, doesn't want to lose us to Satan, until Jesus come again for the 2nd time - to bring us to heaven - eternal life with Him.
If and when we fail to do this - sins separate us from God, when we die we go to hell and burn forever. This is what Apostle Paul is teaching in his gospel.
To Lou - I used to be a Catholic myself: this is what I learn. Bread = broken body of Jesus given for you/us to remember Him. Cup = New Testament shed blood to save you/us. You & I do this to remember what Jesus did for us. But prior to doing this make to confess sins & repent. If you don't, you commit a very serious sin bring damnation to you/ourselves. Confessing sin to a priest, a sinful man, not acceptable by God. What we must do is kneel down in private confess directly to God, so God hears and answers your prayers/confession. I left the Catholic church due to this false teachings, I learn this from reading the Bible King James Version. This is the truth, the true gospel of our Lord. I suggest you read the Bible preferably King James Version.
Apostle Paul who was a Pharisee, religious fanatic who persecuted Christians, until Jesus blinded him on his way to Damascus, converted him to be a Christian, Apostle to preach to Gentiles - non-Jews like us, his gospel is teaching us on what to do.
1 Corinthians 11:26 Context 23For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lor d Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: 24And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. 25After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. 26For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come. 27Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. 28But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. 29For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.
Lou, the RCC view of the Lord's Supper or Sacrament is a little complicated. What was a simple meal shared together in the Upper Room by the Lord & His disciples, or when the early Church observed as a meal during which time a remembrance of the Lord was made, has now been modified & re-interpreted in other ways. Those not of the RCC view the Lord's Table as simply a memorial 'feast' to remember the Lord's Sacrifice through the emblems which denote His broken Body & shed Blood.
To the Roman Catholic, the Sacrament is substantially much more. It essentially involves the Presence of Christ & the transmission of the Grace of Christ. Though RCs are able to support these with Scriptures, it becomes a case of how the Scriptures are given & meant to be understood. The same with the Apostle Peter as being the first pope, from whom the papal line succeeds.
You're correct, that each time the Eucharist is celebrated, Jesus is crucified (a renewed sacrifice) as the bread & wine are materially changed, though unobserved, into Christ's Body & Blood. And through this act & belief, fresh grace (indeed grace upon grace) is also transmitted whereby the person is brought into a state of belief that the more he can get of Christ, will be for his greater spiritual blessing & absolution of sins. Your observance of such a belief as being rife with errors is correct. When one sees other facets of the RCC, with its robed priests, incense burning, statues, rosary & many more, they suggest the need of much paraphernalia to bolster or support faith & adoration. However, as we come to God in faith, it must be evident that our faith must be sufficient to approach God, to speak to Him, to expect of Him, to be accepted of Him. Anything else added to this negates faith & brings in 'works', which is incompatible to (justification through) faith & a walk & worship in faith.
Romans 6:9,10, "For in that he died, he died unto sin ONCE: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God." Hebrews 7:24-27.
Hi Lou, I grew up protestant so I'm not too familiar with RC tradition of communion or if there is a difference, but for me as I'm walking up for communion (pre covid) I look at the cross and say a little prayer of thanks to Jesus and for his sacrifice on the cross for my salvation. The actual act of going up and accepting the bread and wine in communion, is merely a public acknowledgement that you believe (faith) in the salvation of the cross and all that it stands for. As in Luke chapter 22 Jesus states that as you eat the bread or drink the wine that you do this in remembrance of Him. I also think that you answered your own question in that by grace through faith and prayer, we do seek forgiveness with God the Father through Christ Jesus. Throughout the NT some of Jesus and his apostles main teachings are faith (believe), forgiveness, mercy, compassion and so on. I hope this helps.
Hebrews chapter 11 Paul explains faith, John 3:16,
Luke 22:19 "And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me." Luke 22:20 "Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you." Ephesians 2:8 "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:" Ephesians 2:9 "Not of works, lest any man should boast." Ephesians 2:18 "For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father." Galatians 3:26 "For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus."
Question: Why do we have to do - confession of our sins, repent or turn away from sins often? To keep us holy, without sins. Why? Because sins grieve the Holy Spirit in our hearts, which guides, direct us to do what is right and pleasing to God. As Christians we go through trials, problems - God uses this to purge us from our prideful self, selfish human desires, so that God can merge his Holy Spirit with our human spirit - molding us to become in the image and likeness of our Lord Jesus.
God loves us, doesn't want to lose us to Satan, until Jesus come again for the 2nd time - to bring us to heaven - eternal life with Him.
If and when we fail to do this - sins separate us from God, when we die we go to hell and burn forever. This is what Apostle Paul is teaching in his gospel.
Apostle Paul who was a Pharisee, religious fanatic who persecuted Christians, until Jesus blinded him on his way to Damascus, converted him to be a Christian, Apostle to preach to Gentiles - non-Jews like us, his gospel is teaching us on what to do.
1 Corinthians 11:26 Context 23For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lor d Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: 24And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. 25After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. 26For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come. 27Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. 28But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. 29For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.
To the Roman Catholic, the Sacrament is substantially much more. It essentially involves the Presence of Christ & the transmission of the Grace of Christ. Though RCs are able to support these with Scriptures, it becomes a case of how the Scriptures are given & meant to be understood. The same with the Apostle Peter as being the first pope, from whom the papal line succeeds.
You're correct, that each time the Eucharist is celebrated, Jesus is crucified (a renewed sacrifice) as the bread & wine are materially changed, though unobserved, into Christ's Body & Blood. And through this act & belief, fresh grace (indeed grace upon grace) is also transmitted whereby the person is brought into a state of belief that the more he can get of Christ, will be for his greater spiritual blessing & absolution of sins. Your observance of such a belief as being rife with errors is correct. When one sees other facets of the RCC, with its robed priests, incense burning, statues, rosary & many more, they suggest the need of much paraphernalia to bolster or support faith & adoration. However, as we come to God in faith, it must be evident that our faith must be sufficient to approach God, to speak to Him, to expect of Him, to be accepted of Him. Anything else added to this negates faith & brings in 'works', which is incompatible to (justification through) faith & a walk & worship in faith.
Romans 6:9,10, "For in that he died, he died unto sin ONCE: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God." Hebrews 7:24-27.
Hebrews chapter 11 Paul explains faith, John 3:16,
Luke 22:19 "And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me." Luke 22:20 "Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you." Ephesians 2:8 "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:" Ephesians 2:9 "Not of works, lest any man should boast." Ephesians 2:18 "For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father." Galatians 3:26 "For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus."
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