Bible Discussion Thread

I really like the comment made by Wayne T's. He said people should go and check for themselves if those things are true. He even gave names of extant MS. But the question is 'Why is it that people don't like to research something'? Why am I labelled heretic because i don't believe in paganistic view of God as a 'Triune' God? Why is it difficult to believe what the scripture says about Christ -'God manifest in the flesh'. So who manifest in the flesh? 2nd person of trinity? If your answer is yes, then how can Paul says that in Christ dwells the fullness of godhead bodily? If the second person was incarnated and not YHWH, the only true God, then how can the fulness of godhead dwells in Christ? can't you see that we are reducing Christ from who he really is by Triune God? can't you see that the scripture does not support any form of tri-personality in one as claimed by Tertullian? Do you think the apostles who were strictly monotheistic in their believe have this trinity idea? If you are confuse by some scriptures that make it seems that God is more than one person, isn't it a good opportunity for you to prove all things and hold on to that which is true? I know Christology is the main issue that caused confusion to some Greek converted philosophers. Hence they had to resort to their own view of the Logos to explain who Jesus is. For the recored from the scripture, Jesus is the manifestation of the ONLY true God in human flesh. This is the mystery. The trinity is not the mystery, but a paganistic view of God. The Father is exclusive Spirit.He is father because of incarnation, He begot a Son in time, a genuine human being with flesh and soul. However, Jesus is that same exclusive Spirit adding humanity to his deity. Now this is where the distinction comes from and not in any kind of eternal distinction. Yes the plan had been with God what He would do in time, hence 'the Lamb of God that was slain before the foundation of the world'. Was any lamb really slain before Jesus died on the cross? This is what God in His foreknowledge knew he would do in time. Fellow christians, I know in time if God wills we'll all come to the knowledge of who God really is, or at least in heaven, but to start supporting something without diligent studies and labeling it as the Orthodox Christianity is not only arrogant but misleading. The Roman Catholic church has a lot of questions to answer to God. They really did a lot of damage to the true church's beliefs. My prayer is that God will open our heart of understanding, that Christ may dwell in our hearts, that we may know what is the length, breadth, the height of the love of God that pass all understanding. When Christ returned to heaven, even the angels at the gate queried 'Who is this Lord of glory'? And Christ replied "the Lord of host" "the Lord strong and mighty" is the Lord of glory! So if the angels never knew this mystery at the time in question, who am I to blame humans with a faulty view of who the Lord of Glory is? I leave you with this: Deut 6:4 - Hear oh Israel, YHWH is our God. YHWH is one. God bless you.