Bible Discussion Thread

Has anyone ever noticed,,, that not one time under the old or new covenant did anyone ever preach the Doctrine of the trinity ...! And what is the Name of the Father, or the HolyGhost, we know the name of the Son,,, his name is Jesus / we know that Jesus was conceived of the Holy Ghost , then how dose that make him the ONLY BEGOTTEN OF THE FATHER...HMMMMM. IS IT possible that there is only two in the Godhead and that the Holy Ghost is the spirit of the Father.? All through the scripture God the Father and his son Jesus are the only two that are consistently glorified Never the Holy Ghost in the same context. I think i need to reconsider and find the truth ...

Very well said. I have great caution and fear of offending God with my own declarations to consider myself wise to know such things. But I love God and his mercy is beyond my own worthiness of his favor upon my life. I made peace with my lack of understanding with my blind faith in the laws given by Moses. So i don't debate the world but i will comfort the few who truly seek out the truth. My understanding is from my own experience and personal relationship with my God. The living God, my heart and soul is his gift .

Yes, the holy spirit is described as the spirit of God. People keep getting caught up in the same thing over and over. I think the real question is do you believe the Bible or not. Do you believe 1 John 5:7 is truth? If so then believe what it says. It clearly gives 3 dimensions of God and says the 3 are one. It's indisputable.

As for the word "trinity" that's only a made up word to describe the concept the Bible already talks about. People in the Bible also didn't talk about going to the bathroom, but you can assume they did. It would be a logical fallacy to claim, aha! no one in the Bible ever talked about going to the bathroom, therefore no one ever did, ever. The word for trinity is only to make describing the relationship of God the father, the son, and the holy spirit more convenient in one word. But certainly no one has to use that one word, they can just quote scripture that says the same thing.

Beware that satan is going around to Christians and deceiving many with lies and distortions of the truth. If anyone gets confused, just read the Bible yourself and pray for understanding.

After some consideration , and research ,, the ? as to when the Doctrine was excepted or agreed upon makes me think that there must be some miss communication. In the original writings the phrase . In the Name of the Father AND the Son AND the Holy Ghost was not there , in fact it was not adopted until some time later ... (Origin of the Trinity ) tells me something different . There are two many scriptures that tell us that there is only one true God and his son to ignore, i wont try to list them all wright now but given time i might be able to provide , any way i just want to know the truth according to the written word... pary that God might open our eyes ..

I agree with Adam that 1John 5:7 is truth and indisputable, in my view the Holy Ghost speaks to our conscience, that guilty feeling we get when we've done wrong, and as Christians he guides and convicts us to return back to the narrow road to the cross. In John 16 you'll notice that when Jesus talks of the Holy Ghost (Spirit of truth) he calls him, "he", and not it, because he is a separate being as in trinity (triune). In John 16:13 Jesus says that he will not speak of himself. The best description I've heard on the trinity was on one of Billy Graham's sermons, he described as in water, you have liquid, ice, and vapor, all three are different and separate forms but all are the same as in H2O. John chapters 14, 15, and 16 are good reads on the Comforter, (Holy Ghost)

I hope this helps

Ephesians Chapter 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

John 14:26 "But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you."

John 16:13 "Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come." 14 "He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you."

I've only heard that phrase in the context of a catholic mass, not in the Bible. The Bible says there's one God and describes these 3 entities of God. Hard to understand? Of course, nothing new. Just because we don't 100% grasp it doesn't mean we should go trying to reinterpret the Bible or throw out some of its verses or claim that it isn't 100% true.