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BIBLE DISCUSSION THREAD 152235

Bible Discussion Thread

 
  • R ERVIN on Romans 6:11 - 3 years ago
    What was ham sin sexual ?
  • Chris - In Reply on Romans 6:11 - 3 years ago
    If you're referring to the account in Genesis 9:20-25, then, No, the sin of Ham wasn't sexual; he was passing by where his Father Noah was asleep because of imbibing too much, & he "saw" (i.e. he continued to gaze instead of walking away quickly) his Father's nakedness. In one sense, Ham, & his descendants, would not have been cursed, had Ham not reported this thing to his brothers. He must have described in detail what he saw to them, & Noah learned of this act, & so the curse upon Ham.
  • Ajjos - In Reply on Romans 6:11 - 3 years ago
    Gen 9:25 puts the curse on Canaan, Ham's Son. Thus Canaan descendants the "Canaanites" which settled in Canaan were the ones cursed by Noah. In fact when the Israelites moved into the promise land they were to remove the Canaanites due to their sexual depravity. This idea of Ham being "cursed" was one of the main reasons slavery was accepted by most Christian religions for centuries and another example of how some have used the Bible to oppressed various races down to this day.

    Gen 9:24 does say Noah cursed his youngest son which would be Ham however lets reason on that statement. Is it unusual for a grandparent to consider his grandson as his son? An extension of his loins?

    Gen 48:5,6 Records Jacob adopting Joseph's two sons Epharim and Manasseh saying they will become mine, but children after them will be yours...

    Even Adam was called a son of God since it was through him that he came into existence. Luke 3:38

    Even today a father or mother can claim their son-in-law as their son or their daughter-in-law as their daughter.



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