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You mentioned an alternative translation of Jesus on the cross saying 'how could you forsake me?' Can you tell me where to find the translation you quoted? That line has always puzzled me because I instinctively know the statement to be false; the king of kings would not whine like a pleb. Only a fool would believe that that book was shielded from edits, while full well knowing satan is the god of this world. However, bring up the Bibles' credibility here, you will get Christians bending over backwards with scriptures to defend the indefensible for ego sake.
Jesus's recites Psalm 22 to remind the Priesthood that they didn't recognize him as God, even as they stood beside him, even though it was written in the Old Testament. Read the entire Psalm and see if you would?
Psalms 22:1 (To the chief Musician upon Aijeleth Shahar, A Psalm of David.) My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring? 2O my God, I cry in the daytime, but thou hearest not; and in the night season, and am not silent. 3But thou art holy, O thou that inhabitest the praises of Israel. 4Our fathers trusted in thee: they trusted, and thou didst deliver
"And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" Mat 27:46
You asserted, "I instinctively know the statement to be false; the king of kings would not whine like a pleb." You were referring to a quote from some other translation, "how could you forsake me?"
Jesus had been in various stages of anguish for hours from the previous evening.
"Then saith he unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death: tarry ye here, and watch with me. And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt." Mat 26:38-39
And Doctor Luke pointed out, "And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground." Luk 22:44
So for nearly 12 hours Jesus was in agony of soul, then severely beaten and abused prior to the crucifixion. However it was on the cross He experienced excruciating (a word we get from crucifixion) physical pain but not as painful as receiving The Wrath of God His Father. The ONLY time in The Gospels where He does not address God as Father!
"For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him." 2Co 5:21
The sinless Lamb of God, bearing our sin, and The Wrath of God.
"He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him."Joh 3:36
Finally, Jesus is quoting Psalm 22:1. "LOOK HERE!" This Psalm of David was prophetic about The Messiah. "But I am a worm" (Tolah, a scarlet worm that dies and the secretion turns from red to white in three days) "They pierced my hands and my feet." "They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture." "He hath done this" (It is finished!).
I think you might be looking for psalm 22 ,i think Jesus was quoting this psalm in order to draw the watching rreligious hierarchy to it as they would or should have known that psalm very well and it is ALL about Jesus .
No dear. Marylin shared a believable translation of what Jesus said about 'forsaking'. The account we are given in KJV lacks merit or credibility. The translators did a horrible job.
It's not the translation of the KJV bible that lacks merit or credibility, but only people that misquote and mistranslate.
Matthew 7:15 "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves."
Revelation 22:18 "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:"
Revelation 22:19 "And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."
Matthew 5:18 "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."
Psalms 22:1 "(To the chief Musician upon Aijeleth Shahar, A Psalm of David.) My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?"
Matthew 27:46 "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?"
Mark 15:34 "And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?"
In my kjv , psalm 22 starts : My God ,my God , why hast thou FORSAKEN me , maybe you havent actually read psalm 22 in the kjv ,i dont think mine is any different to any one elses .
It sounds like you're attacking the KJV translation, but what makes you an expert? Are you more of an expert than a large team of Greek and Hebrew scholars who spent seven years meticulously going word for word to translate the Bible as accurate as possible? What is your evidence and what are your credentials for claiming that you are right and they are wrong? Have you prayed to God about this before posting your attacks on God's Word or did you just post your attack on a whim?
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When will the Comments and enjoyment of the Scriptures open up. I miss so much
reading how Christians uses and interrupts the Word of God.
When can we expect this to happen?
Marilyn
Rev 10:7
Peggy thanks for responding to my Comment. I agree all things will be revealed. However,
God will reveal many things before the sound of the Trumpet. He that has ears let him/her "hear"
what the Spirit says. Also, we are warned to try the Spirit to see if it is from God or the Devil.
I believe God for myself and pray your strength in the Lord.
Psalms 22:1 (To the chief Musician upon Aijeleth Shahar, A Psalm of David.) My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring? 2O my God, I cry in the daytime, but thou hearest not; and in the night season, and am not silent. 3But thou art holy, O thou that inhabitest the praises of Israel. 4Our fathers trusted in thee: they trusted, and thou didst deliver
"And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" Mat 27:46
You asserted, "I instinctively know the statement to be false; the king of kings would not whine like a pleb." You were referring to a quote from some other translation, "how could you forsake me?"
Jesus had been in various stages of anguish for hours from the previous evening.
"Then saith he unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death: tarry ye here, and watch with me. And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt." Mat 26:38-39
And Doctor Luke pointed out, "And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground." Luk 22:44
So for nearly 12 hours Jesus was in agony of soul, then severely beaten and abused prior to the crucifixion. However it was on the cross He experienced excruciating (a word we get from crucifixion) physical pain but not as painful as receiving The Wrath of God His Father. The ONLY time in The Gospels where He does not address God as Father!
"For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him." 2Co 5:21
The sinless Lamb of God, bearing our sin, and The Wrath of God.
"He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him."Joh 3:36
Finally, Jesus is quoting Psalm 22:1. "LOOK HERE!" This Psalm of David was prophetic about The Messiah. "But I am a worm" (Tolah, a scarlet worm that dies and the secretion turns from red to white in three days) "They pierced my hands and my feet." "They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture." "He hath done this" (It is finished!).
Matthew 7:15 "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves."
Revelation 22:18 "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:"
Revelation 22:19 "And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."
Matthew 5:18 "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."
Psalms 22:1 "(To the chief Musician upon Aijeleth Shahar, A Psalm of David.) My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?"
Matthew 27:46 "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?"
Mark 15:34 "And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?"
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