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BIBLE DISCUSSION THREAD 152585

Bible Discussion Thread

 
  • Ralph Williams on Matthew 5 - 3 years ago
    JESUS said in verse 17 that he came to fulfill the law. What law or laws is JESUS referring to?
  • SkipVought - In Reply on Matthew 5 - 3 years ago
    "Think not that I am come to destroy THE LAW, or THE PROPHETS: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil." Mat 5:17

    The overall sense is that THE LAW, embodied in The Torah, and THE PROPHETS, embodied in the historical and prophetic writings, are and will be fulfilled by Jesus, as many of the Messanic prophecies foretold.

    Jesus is taking the requirements of The Law, "It is written..." and saying, you thought that it just meant this, like don't murder or don't commit adultery. "But I say to you..." not only that but it also goes deeper than your overt actions, to the the intents of your thoughts and motives. "So then, be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect." And the life of Jesus was a live demonstration of that perfection.

    In Genesis 22 Abraham was told to offer "thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest," but God stopped and provided a ram caught in a thorn bush. Jesus FULFILLED the important meaning of that incident, at the exact same place on Mount Moriah. Jesus was The Son, The ONLY Son whom The Father loved, and Jesus told the Pharisees "Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM."Joh 8:56-58

    There are perhaps thousands of places in the Old Testament that point to Jesus. One connection I'm particularly interested in is the creed that Paul had received and then delivered to the church at Corinth and then subsequently wrote to them, which we identify as 1 Cor 15:3-7. So exactly where in the OT do we see that Christ "rose again the third day according to the scriptures." I have some ideas. I think I'll post that as a question to get some feedback.
  • Chris - In Reply on Matthew 5 - 3 years ago
    I believe that Jesus was speaking of the Laws that the Jews understood were given them by God in totality, to be observed, i.e. the Torah (the first five books of the OT). And of course, "the prophets", were the prophetical Books. The other Books are termed as "the Writings". In those Books, the moral Law, the ceremonial Law, the ordinances, the various festivals/feasts/rites/observance of days, etc., & those prophecies that concerned His Coming, were all fulfilled in the Person of Jesus, God's Son.

    Did those Laws & Ordinances lose their potency or currency? Matthew 5:18: "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." Some think that Jesus is stating that "heaven & earth" must first pass away before the smallest requirement of the Law be removed forever. However, I believe that Jesus was showing that every aspect of the Law would be fulfilled & then the "heaven & earth" would dissolve: a slight difference. And that means, that Jesus in Himself fulfilled every aspect of the Law, so that by believing in Him, & through the virtue of His Death & Resurrection, the Jew would never be judged & condemned by the Law. They (and us), would be judged by our acceptance of the Gospel of Christ & by a renewed Spirit-filled Life to obey all of God's requirements for us. And these requirements far exceed in moral & spiritual value, than was revealed to Israel in the old Law.

    The Prophets spoke of Jesus' Coming, but still there are many prophecies yet to be fulfilled (those for the end times). After these complete, then the dissolution of the "heaven & earth" will be the next on the Divine Agenda.
  • Me - In Reply on Matthew 5 - 3 years ago
    The Ten Commandments God's laws set down to Moses.



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