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  • Lissous Christos on 1 John 5:4 - 5 years ago
    The unforgiveable sin is to deny that Jesus came in human body and that his spirit is still in this world. He wasn't worried about his body and those that were to kill it as he was a willing sacrifice. But beyond that, after he rose, after he sent his spirit. After he came back. To deny he is the Christ of the world that he is the son of the Father, that he and the Father are one, and then to deny his followers who have been born of God. Especially to deny Christ living inside the flesh of us. All of this is the unforgiveable sin.
  • SkipVought - In Reply on 1 John 5:4 - 5 years ago
    LC,

    "Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come." Mat 12:31-32

    Jesus said this to religious leaders who SAW and HEARD Him. They SAW the Works of The Holy Spirit at Jesus' hands, yet rejected Him thus blaspheming The Holy Spirit. Unforgivable!
  • Carleton - In Reply on 1 John 5:4 - 5 years ago
    Hello, Consider the moment before you or anyone had their sins forgiven by faith and repentance in Jesus Christ. Ahead of that moment, all were in denial.

    :)
  • Lissous Christos - In Reply on 1 John 5:4 - 5 years ago
    All were in denial of what? I have been pondering exactly what you mentioned. What was I before my rebirth? I was already dead spiritually but I died with Christ.

    So consider the question did Jesus become God at ascension, baptism, incarnation or before the foundations of the world?

    And I? When was my spiritual death? Was it in the garden with my mother Eve? Was it when my father Adam ate it? Or when jesus was on the cross at his desension into Hell? Or was it at my conversion? Or is it daily?

    As you can see from my name my theology is already decided on who I am in Christ. I do all thongs through Christ that strengthens me. It is not I who live but Christ in me.
  • SkipVought - In Reply on 1 John 5:4 - 5 years ago
    LC,

    "did Jesus become God at ascension, baptism, incarnation or before the foundations of the world?"

    The answer is, NONE of your options are correct.

    Jesus never "became" God.

    "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God."Joh 1:1-2

    "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth."Joh 1:14

    The Word was with God and The Word was God. And The Word was made flesh (Jesus)"

    Jesus was God from eternity past, existing in Loving relationship with The Father and The Spirit as The Son, in One Divine Being that Christians refer to as The Trinity.
  • Carleton - In Reply on 1 John 5:4 - 5 years ago
    Dear Lissous, I hope and pray that are at peace and rest in Jesus Christ whom was part of "us" in Genesis 1. A true Christian should know this peace and rest and have grace to live in this peace and rest while time remains.

    :)



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