There is little direct evidence why Lucifer was cast to earth.
"According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:" Eph 1:4
Jesus chose believers to be "in Him before the foundation of the world."
So if Lucifer was cast down to the earth, that had to be AFTER the foundation of the world. Hmmmmmm? We were chosen BEFORE and Lucifer was cast down AFTER the foundation of the world.
Lucifer was involved with Adam and Eve and The Fall.
Lucifer and the angels that fell with him, were not offered repentance and redemption for their rebellion. However, mankind has been offered repentance and redemption for their rebellion.
Jesus defeated Lucifer in The Cross and The Resurrection, bringing redemption to mankind.
"And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it." Col 2:13-15
And this was hidden from Lucifer.
"But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory: Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory." 1Co 2:7-8
And now, even the angels in heaven marvel at what God is doing.
"To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God," Eph 3:10
So why did God cast Lucifer to earth? He had a plan to rescue humans, created a little lower than the angels, by Himself becoming one of them and dying for their rebellion, something He didn't do for a greater creation.
The redeemed, paid for by The Blood of Christ, have no obligation to replace them.
It seems that what's going on now is a wonder to the angels. In addition to Eph 3:10 are other allusions including...
"Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you: Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow. Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into." 1Pe 1:10-12
Point being that God has greater purposes than have been revealed to us. My ways are higher, eye hath not seen, etc.
Hi Skip, hope you don't mind, I agree with your "wonder to the angels". I have not read anywhere in scripture that angels will be replaced. In Matt. 25:41 we read the lake of fire was prepared for Satan (devil) and his angels and like everything else, most likely before the foundation of the world, the plan of God. We read in Job1:6 Job 2:1 Satan still has access to heaven, Satan and God are having a conversation about Job. We also see God puts restrictions on Satan.
I Luke.10:18 we read Jesus saw Satan fall as lightning from heaven.
In Revelation 12:10 we read the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down. Satan did not fall in Revelation 12, he was cast out of heaven "neither was their place found any more in heaven". We also see in Revelation 12:11 the reason they were able to cast Satan out. "And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony"; This shows this is at least after the crucifying of Jesus, more likely in the future. Also, in Revelation 12, it is permanent, they are rejoicing in heaven Satan will no longer have access to heaven. When Satan is cast out down to earth he gives his power to the beast in Revelation 13.
In the Bible, we can read angels left their first estate and their own habitation and are locked in chains of darkness until judgment day. Jude 1:6 and 2Pet.2:4. Some scriptures say there are demons, evil spirits on the earth, and how they got here there is little information in the Bible how. You have to go outside the Bible and compile a bushel of speculations and pick one but be careful.
Some things are not answered by scriptures but do not affect our salvation. The things we do need are in bold print.
Isaiah 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:
There is little direct evidence why Lucifer was cast to earth.
"According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:" Eph 1:4
Jesus chose believers to be "in Him before the foundation of the world."
So if Lucifer was cast down to the earth, that had to be AFTER the foundation of the world. Hmmmmmm? We were chosen BEFORE and Lucifer was cast down AFTER the foundation of the world.
Lucifer was involved with Adam and Eve and The Fall.
Lucifer and the angels that fell with him, were not offered repentance and redemption for their rebellion. However, mankind has been offered repentance and redemption for their rebellion.
Jesus defeated Lucifer in The Cross and The Resurrection, bringing redemption to mankind.
"And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it." Col 2:13-15
And this was hidden from Lucifer.
"But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory: Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory." 1Co 2:7-8
And now, even the angels in heaven marvel at what God is doing.
"To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God," Eph 3:10
So why did God cast Lucifer to earth? He had a plan to rescue humans, created a little lower than the angels, by Himself becoming one of them and dying for their rebellion, something He didn't do for a greater creation.
Who says that any must be replaced?
The redeemed, paid for by The Blood of Christ, have no obligation to replace them.
It seems that what's going on now is a wonder to the angels. In addition to Eph 3:10 are other allusions including...
"Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you: Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow. Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into." 1Pe 1:10-12
Point being that God has greater purposes than have been revealed to us. My ways are higher, eye hath not seen, etc.
I Luke.10:18 we read Jesus saw Satan fall as lightning from heaven.
In Revelation 12:10 we read the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down. Satan did not fall in Revelation 12, he was cast out of heaven "neither was their place found any more in heaven". We also see in Revelation 12:11 the reason they were able to cast Satan out. "And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony"; This shows this is at least after the crucifying of Jesus, more likely in the future. Also, in Revelation 12, it is permanent, they are rejoicing in heaven Satan will no longer have access to heaven. When Satan is cast out down to earth he gives his power to the beast in Revelation 13.
In the Bible, we can read angels left their first estate and their own habitation and are locked in chains of darkness until judgment day. Jude 1:6 and 2Pet.2:4. Some scriptures say there are demons, evil spirits on the earth, and how they got here there is little information in the Bible how. You have to go outside the Bible and compile a bushel of speculations and pick one but be careful.
Some things are not answered by scriptures but do not affect our salvation. The things we do need are in bold print.
Isaiah 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:
Thanks Ron
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