Bible Discussion Thread

Hi everyone ,has anyone read the Torah ? Im asking because i am thinking of getting myself a copy ,if you have read it can you tell me what you think please ?

The Torah is Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy, the first five books of The Bible written by Moses by inspiration of The Holy Spirit.

Have you NOT read the Torah? I probably have read Leviticus the least. I'm currently in a Bible study on Genesis. But I've read through these books many times over the years.

Many significant things to me: a very few of them are...

Abraham believed God and it was reckoned to him as righteousness. Genesis 15:6

Moses intercedes for his people Exodus 33:12-23 "My presence shall go with thee, and I will give thee rest."

Sevenfold curses for Israel's rebellion Leviticus 26

Moses strikes the rock twice. Oops! Numbers 20:10-13

How can we know if a prophet speaks from God Deuteronomy 18:15-22

Hi Skip ,im sorry ,i should have made myself clear ,i mean a copy of the Hebrew Torah ,with English translation of course ,i was just wondering if anyone knew how much if any differnces there are between it and the k.j.v.

My Bible is the eSword app for iPad. I have lots of translations (20+) in this app including Hebrew (Tanach) with Strongs, KJV with Strongs, JPS (Jewish Publication Society) Old Testament.

For instance, this is a comparison of Psalm 22:16

(KJVA)For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.

(Hebrew OT)

(JPS)(22:17) For dogs have encompassed me; a company of evil-doers have inclosed me; like a lion, they are at my hands and my feet.

Hello Skip,

As I'll say this reply is for Sacha as well. Seeing those differences on Psalms 22:16 led me to check that verse on the site I use to go over the Holy Scriptures from other translations.

The site I refer to has the Masoretic Text which is said to be the authoritative Hebrew text of the 24 books of the Tanakh(OT) in Judaism. Using that site I copied and pasted that psalm on google translate to English. This is what came up:

Psalms 22:16 Because dog soaps are a testament to the kippon grazing kari by my hands and feet.

Which I cannot fully understand as a couple of those words I do not know.

Using the verse analysis makes more sense as the last four Hebrew words are H5362, H3738, H3027 then H7272. Which would be like "strike with violence, to dig bore or open, hands, feet." I see where the "lion" comes from as that is the Hebrew word H738 which is only in the KJV translation for "pierced" which makes no sense. As that word is not in the Masoretic Text for that Psalm.

Very interesting though. As some other verses I translated were almost exact to the KJV. Some much more simple etc.

Always good to study the Scriptures.

Hi Richard in Christ ,assuming you didnt do a lot of typos in that rendering of the psalm from the.hebrew ,i think i shall keep my pennies and stick to my k.j.v. thankyou so much .

Sacha,

Good choice. Unless you're a scholar in Hebrew, and I am surely NOT, having the Hebrew is of little value.

I occasionally read stuff that refers to Hebrew characters' numeric value and so on those rare occasions, I'll open my Hebrew to see those characters or words. BTW, a Strongs Concordance, also in my eSword app, can help a lot!

Here are a few instances that I've found interesting and inspiring.

Abram and Sarai-God changed each of their names by adding the Hebrew character Heh (think breath). He breathed into each of them.

Rahab tells the spies to hide 3 days, helps them escape using a rope (word connoting sorrow) and arranges to identify her family with a scarlet cord (word connoting hope). Christ died and rise the third day ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES.

Solomon's laver, 10 cubits across and 30 cubits around, ratio is 3 vs 3.14159. 1Ki 7:23; 2Cr 4:2. The Hebrew word fir circumference is spelled two different ways and the numerical difference in the Hebrew characters gives a solution that is correct to 3 decimal places compared to using pi.