I just thought I would state this detail of a verse that came to light.
In Colossians 1:19. For it pleased the Father that in Him should all fulness dwell;
As this is after speaking of Jesus Christ being the image of the invisible God and by Him and for Him were all things created. You may note that "the Father" is in italics in verse 19. Because in the Textus Receptus it is not there. It would actually read something like "for in Him it was pleasing that all the fullness dwelt".
Jesus Christ is more than a man and He existed before He was born. He was in on Creation. I can't understand how some would state that all the Words in His mouth were of His Father. Of coarse I understand the Father is in Him and giving Him all His Words to speak. Though you can easily see Jesus Christ is His own person with His own soul. Speaking to and of the Father constantly. Jesus Christ is most definitely ONE with the Father and just as much God though the Son. He is at the right Hand of God. A couple more verses stating He existed before He was born: John 3:12-13, John 6:38, John 5:45-47, John 6:62, John 8:58.
Maybe just to bring up the Angel of the LORD in the OT. Just one instance is Exodus 23:21. Not just a regular angel or even an archangel. How in Joshua 5:13-15. Where a Host of YHWH tells Joshua to take his shoes off for he is on Holy ground. As in Exodus 3:1-6. Again said to be an Angel of the LORD which is then stated as YHWH. God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Where Moses is told to take His shoes off. I would think because where YHWH is, is Holy ground.
I believe the Angel of the Lord in the OT is the pre incarnate Jesus Christ. Could I be wrong? Yes. As I have many other things to prove YHWH is not just one as normal people may perceive. Almighty God is ONE period.
I really don't know why people are trying to attack the deity of Christ. One day we will all have to stand before Him.
Brother Richard, May CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.
Just other scriptures that tell us who we are IN CHRIST.
2 Peter 1:4 Whereby are GIVEN (his works) to us exceeding great and precious PROMISES: that by these ye might be partakers of the DIVINE NATURE.
Hebrews 3:1 Wherefore, HOLY BRETHREN (you are HOLY because I AM HOLY), partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest OF OUR PROFESSION, Jesus Christ.
Brother Richard,may the SPIRIT IN US; CHRIST IN US, grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.
You are correct THE ANGEL (of the Spirit; or Lord) is Christ. This ONE TRUTH is what is so hard for the mind of the flesh to understand. THERE IS ONE SPIRIT; many bodies only one Spirit. THE SPIRIT; OR SEED. Jesus was the FIRST to sprout from this seed (SPIRIT) the first man. Now with a body; but everything else IN THE FULLNESS OF GOD (SPIRIT). His words were from the WORD; because there is ONLY ONE WORD; HIS WORKS WERE from the only one who can do the works. Christ was sent to destroy the works of the devil. The devil says that that it is up to man to do the works (a murderer and liar from the beginning; when Adam was given a mind and body of flesh, this wisdom of the world began. Eve disobeyed God because SHE DID NOT BELIEVE GOD). WE TOO ARE BORN OF THE SEED; when this worldly wisdom is destroyed and replaced with THIS ONE WISDOM. Every ones words will be from THE WORD and every ones WORKS will be from GOD. There will be many bodies IN THE FULLNESS OF GOD.
Ephesians 2:22 In whom also we are builded together for a habitation of God through the Spirit.
Christ has a body in which THE FULLNESS OF GOD DWELLS; we are THE BODY OF CHRIST.
Ephesians 4:13 Till we ALL come in to the unity of the faith (of Jesus Christ), and the KNOWLEDGE OF THE SON OF GOD, unto a perfect man, unto the measure and stature OF THE FULLNESS OF CHRIST (GOD).
Well I myself have only been saved(with the Lord) not even two full years yet. About the Angel of the LORD in the OT being Jesus Christ is not new to me. I just thought I'd post that as many have been trying to attack the deity of Christ recently.
Me stating what "came to light" was the verse in 1 Colossians 1:19. Which I just noticed the other night and just thought I'd post it.
I just thought I would state this detail of a verse that came to light.
In Colossians 1:19. For it pleased the Father that in Him should all fulness dwell;
As this is after speaking of Jesus Christ being the image of the invisible God and by Him and for Him were all things created. You may note that "the Father" is in italics in verse 19. Because in the Textus Receptus it is not there. It would actually read something like "for in Him it was pleasing that all the fullness dwelt".
Jesus Christ is more than a man and He existed before He was born. He was in on Creation. I can't understand how some would state that all the Words in His mouth were of His Father. Of coarse I understand the Father is in Him and giving Him all His Words to speak. Though you can easily see Jesus Christ is His own person with His own soul. Speaking to and of the Father constantly. Jesus Christ is most definitely ONE with the Father and just as much God though the Son. He is at the right Hand of God. A couple more verses stating He existed before He was born: John 3:12-13, John 6:38, John 5:45-47, John 6:62, John 8:58.
Maybe just to bring up the Angel of the LORD in the OT. Just one instance is Exodus 23:21. Not just a regular angel or even an archangel. How in Joshua 5:13-15. Where a Host of YHWH tells Joshua to take his shoes off for he is on Holy ground. As in Exodus 3:1-6. Again said to be an Angel of the LORD which is then stated as YHWH. God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Where Moses is told to take His shoes off. I would think because where YHWH is, is Holy ground.
I believe the Angel of the Lord in the OT is the pre incarnate Jesus Christ. Could I be wrong? Yes. As I have many other things to prove YHWH is not just one as normal people may perceive. Almighty God is ONE period.
I really don't know why people are trying to attack the deity of Christ. One day we will all have to stand before Him.
God Bless.
Just other scriptures that tell us who we are IN CHRIST.
2 Peter 1:4 Whereby are GIVEN (his works) to us exceeding great and precious PROMISES: that by these ye might be partakers of the DIVINE NATURE.
Hebrews 3:1 Wherefore, HOLY BRETHREN (you are HOLY because I AM HOLY), partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest OF OUR PROFESSION, Jesus Christ.
You are correct THE ANGEL (of the Spirit; or Lord) is Christ. This ONE TRUTH is what is so hard for the mind of the flesh to understand. THERE IS ONE SPIRIT; many bodies only one Spirit. THE SPIRIT; OR SEED. Jesus was the FIRST to sprout from this seed (SPIRIT) the first man. Now with a body; but everything else IN THE FULLNESS OF GOD (SPIRIT). His words were from the WORD; because there is ONLY ONE WORD; HIS WORKS WERE from the only one who can do the works. Christ was sent to destroy the works of the devil. The devil says that that it is up to man to do the works (a murderer and liar from the beginning; when Adam was given a mind and body of flesh, this wisdom of the world began. Eve disobeyed God because SHE DID NOT BELIEVE GOD). WE TOO ARE BORN OF THE SEED; when this worldly wisdom is destroyed and replaced with THIS ONE WISDOM. Every ones words will be from THE WORD and every ones WORKS will be from GOD. There will be many bodies IN THE FULLNESS OF GOD.
Ephesians 2:22 In whom also we are builded together for a habitation of God through the Spirit.
Christ has a body in which THE FULLNESS OF GOD DWELLS; we are THE BODY OF CHRIST.
Ephesians 4:13 Till we ALL come in to the unity of the faith (of Jesus Christ), and the KNOWLEDGE OF THE SON OF GOD, unto a perfect man, unto the measure and stature OF THE FULLNESS OF CHRIST (GOD).
You made my day. Peace and Blessings be upon you brother.
Well I myself have only been saved(with the Lord) not even two full years yet. About the Angel of the LORD in the OT being Jesus Christ is not new to me. I just thought I'd post that as many have been trying to attack the deity of Christ recently.
Me stating what "came to light" was the verse in 1 Colossians 1:19. Which I just noticed the other night and just thought I'd post it.
Thank you for your kind reply Bill. God Bless.
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