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Why is there a discrepancy in the first book of John, when it says, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." This is the King's James Version. The JW's version says, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was A god." I believe the King's James version to be correct. Am I wrong about this?
The King James is correct. John says the word was God, not a God.
Interesting that some people take these phrases and try to make something out of it that actually twists it away from its original intent. It says "the word was God."
Some groups will say because the word God in the Greek text does not have the definite article, they say "and the word was a God," not God Himself, but a God, indefinite article. There is only one problem. In Greek there is no indefinite article!
Now in the Greek language when you have a noun, let's say God, if you put a definite article with it, "the" God, it is speaking about a definite person, a specific person, the God.
When you leave the definite article off, you are designating quality and nature, God in nature or in quality. And so what John is saying here is "and the Word was God in nature and quality." Not "a God." There is no such thing in the Greek language.
The Father God made His Son Jesus Christ to be God. Jesus performed what the Father spoke in the beginning, therefore He is God. All things were made by Him. Hebrews 1:8. The Father said to the Son- "Thy throne- O God".
Type one of these: commentary or, teaching or, history or, meaning.
I generally read something from the first 5 listings. The further you go down the list, they can get a little bent.
You can Google a word; and type Hebrew meaning, Greek meaning.
Or, you can ask for an explanation in the version of Bible too.
I found one on Ecclesiastes that was so awesome to study.
ALSO, this website has a Commentary that you access by entering your scripture in the Search Box. Touch the verse and it will highlight yellow. Scroll down a little. Choose Commentary.
Hi Mishael. I'm not sure that Lillie is seeking help on that passage, rather affirming her understanding of it. But I would affirm Jesse's clear understanding of John 1:1 as written in Greek: that there is no indefinite article there to suggest that 'the Word was (a) god'. I had written more on this but there must be something in my comment that is causing it to be rejected. So I just submit this.
It39s Not Our Fault They Will Not Believe Us - In Reply on John 1 - 3 years ago
Most difficulties understanding some scriptures, stems from a Throne problem. God does not quite sit on the Throne of their hearts, yet.
A lot of people are still in Romans chapter 1, trying to figure out Who made ALL this? If people made it, it would be on sale at Walmart.
PRIDE prevents us from bowing the knee, to Worship The Creator. Pride being the most toxic of the 7 deadly sins. We are endowed by the Creator with creativity within us. Many great minds have tried to explain John 1:1 through the lens of human perception. Everything CANNOT be explained through the lens of LOGIC. Logic is the polar opposite of FAITH. I often wonder what Steven Hawking thought when he was crossing the veil of Death?
God (the Godhead) exists outside the ticking of Time. When He created Time, he said, "IN BEGINNING." If our human brains reject that statement, our FAITH is ship wrecked. Worse yet, we try to find weak-faithed people to follow us, instead of God.
The Bible has to be read through the lens of Faith. Everyone is born with enough faith to see from creation; that SOMEONE made all this. The human body is so complex, that even scientists and doctors admit they cannot make a human from scratch. Frankenstein is a Hollywood movie.
Like Genesis 1:1, in the book of John, God restates, "IN THE BEGINNING". If we reject that statement again...we are a ship in a storm without a rudder. It will crash or sink.
Before The Son of God was born human through Mary; His name was The Word. Before conception He was in Heaven. He was speaking our world into existence. He was on earth, showing people what the Father was like, 33 years. People saw God wrapped in human flesh. Jesus didn't hide anything. He hung on the Cross for people. He didn't have to do it. He did it because, GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD. He did it so that on Pentecost, the Holy Spirit could come into the World and continue Jesus's Ministry to those who would Believe: with signs following.
The King James is correct. John says the word was God, not a God.
Interesting that some people take these phrases and try to make something out of it that actually twists it away from its original intent. It says "the word was God."
Some groups will say because the word God in the Greek text does not have the definite article, they say "and the word was a God," not God Himself, but a God, indefinite article. There is only one problem. In Greek there is no indefinite article!
Now in the Greek language when you have a noun, let's say God, if you put a definite article with it, "the" God, it is speaking about a definite person, a specific person, the God.
When you leave the definite article off, you are designating quality and nature, God in nature or in quality. And so what John is saying here is "and the Word was God in nature and quality." Not "a God." There is no such thing in the Greek language.
In Google,
Enter your verse of scripture and after it,
Type one of these: commentary or, teaching or, history or, meaning.
I generally read something from the first 5 listings. The further you go down the list, they can get a little bent.
You can Google a word; and type Hebrew meaning, Greek meaning.
Or, you can ask for an explanation in the version of Bible too.
I found one on Ecclesiastes that was so awesome to study.
ALSO, this website has a Commentary that you access by entering your scripture in the Search Box. Touch the verse and it will highlight yellow. Scroll down a little. Choose Commentary.
Maybe Chris has some tips?
A lot of people are still in Romans chapter 1, trying to figure out Who made ALL this? If people made it, it would be on sale at Walmart.
PRIDE prevents us from bowing the knee, to Worship The Creator. Pride being the most toxic of the 7 deadly sins. We are endowed by the Creator with creativity within us. Many great minds have tried to explain John 1:1 through the lens of human perception. Everything CANNOT be explained through the lens of LOGIC. Logic is the polar opposite of FAITH. I often wonder what Steven Hawking thought when he was crossing the veil of Death?
God (the Godhead) exists outside the ticking of Time. When He created Time, he said, "IN BEGINNING." If our human brains reject that statement, our FAITH is ship wrecked. Worse yet, we try to find weak-faithed people to follow us, instead of God.
The Bible has to be read through the lens of Faith. Everyone is born with enough faith to see from creation; that SOMEONE made all this. The human body is so complex, that even scientists and doctors admit they cannot make a human from scratch. Frankenstein is a Hollywood movie.
Like Genesis 1:1, in the book of John, God restates, "IN THE BEGINNING". If we reject that statement again...we are a ship in a storm without a rudder. It will crash or sink.
Before The Son of God was born human through Mary; His name was The Word. Before conception He was in Heaven. He was speaking our world into existence. He was on earth, showing people what the Father was like, 33 years. People saw God wrapped in human flesh. Jesus didn't hide anything. He hung on the Cross for people. He didn't have to do it. He did it because, GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD. He did it so that on Pentecost, the Holy Spirit could come into the World and continue Jesus's Ministry to those who would Believe: with signs following.
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