Bible Discussion Thread

I was told if I didn't have the gift of younges I was not fill with holy spirit and none of his . Can you prove this in scripture or disprove it .. cause it's a real conflict

Hi Tamara.

Part 1.

Lets look at some history of the Jews to get an understanding what was the purpose for the tongues where it's first mentioned in Act ch 2.

The Lord says in the Gospels he come for the lost sheep of Israel.

Israel was dispersed all over the then known world after the Babylonia captivity and until that day many remained away from Jerusalem and had NO KING TO SIT ON DAVID'S THRONE. "THEY WERE SCATTERED" NO SHEPPARD.

AND PICKED UP OTHER LANGUAGES.

So you see why the Lord said he come for the lost sheep of Israel.

Around 600 years goes by.

""Plenty time to loose your way"" and some keys in the difficult Hebrew language.

Now we come to the cross and the mission of the Holyspirit.

The Lord sent his disciples to Jerusalem to do the work of the Father but wait to be empowered by the Holyspirit, and the spirit was poured out on everyone to RECEIVE/HEAR THE GOSPEL IN THERE OWN LANGUAGE.

( Acts 1:4. And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me.

( Luke 24:49. And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.

Acts 2:4-8. And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with OTHER TONGUES, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of EVERY NATION UNDER HEAVEN.

Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that EVERY MAN HEARD THEM SPEAK IN HIS OWN LANGUAGE-

( You noticed they weren't unknown tongues? )

-And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans?

AND HOW HEAR WE EVERY MAN IN OUR OWN TONGUE, WHEREIN WE WERE BORN?

It seems here they were given the power to to "hear and understand" other languages.

The other gifts of the spirit was given as well.

Hi Tamara.

Part 2.

1 Corinthians 12:4-18. Now there are DIVERSITIES OF GIFTS, BUT THE SAME SPIRIT.

And there are DIFFERENCES OF ADMINISTRATIONS, BUT THE SAME LORD.

And there are DIVERSITIES OF OPERATIONS, BUT IT IS THE SAME GOD WHICH WORKETH ALL IN ALL.

But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.

"FOR TO ONE" is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; TO ANOTHER the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;

TO ANOTHER faith by the same Spirit; TO ANOTHER the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;

TO ANOTHER the working of miracles; TO ANOTHER prophecy; TO ANOTHER discerning of spirits; TO ANOTHER divers kinds of tongues; TO ANOTHER the interpretation of tongues:

But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, DIVIDING TO EVERY MAN SEVERALLY AS HE WILL-

( You noticed these gifts is given and divided as HE/GOD gives. "Not all have the same gifts"

( continuing)

-For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.

For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

For the body is not one member, but many.

If the foot shall say, Because I am not the hand, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?

ALL DIDN'T SPEAK IN TONGUES, AND ALL DIDN'T WORK MIRACLES.

-And if the ear shall say, Because I am not the eye, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?

If the whole body were an eye, where were the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where were the smelling?

But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him.

" I believe the gift of tongues used in that way has ceased "

1 Corinthians 13:8. Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.

Read 1Cor. Ch12 and Ch 13.

God bles

Hello Tamara,

As we have gone through this several times on this site. There are some who say that and usually use verses like Mark 16:17. Along with verses through Acts in where the first people receiving the Holy Spirit, after the resurrection of Christ, spake it tongues. Though this does not prove that "theory" of "you have to speak in tongues if you have the Holy Spirit". To speak in "tongues" is a gift from God. I do not condemn anyone who want's to do that. Though as my focus is on doing the Will of God more than anything. I myself really have no interest in that gift. If God wanted me to speak to someone in another language He would have me do it.

I say to you in truth and certainty I have received the Holy Ghost from above. I do not speak in tongues. And I have been condemned by others here for that. Though it makes no difference to me in that they will have to give account for their words.

Read 1 Corinthians 12. Which is about the diversities of gifts from the Holy Spirit. Unique to every person. 1 Corinthians 14 also. One verse is 1 Corinthians 14:5. "Greater is he that prophsieth than he that speaketh with tongues".

Don't let people fool you with that false interpretation. That if you don't speak in tongues you're none of His. Look at Matthew 7:21-23. It is not even the works that we do that save us. The Lord searches our hearts and knows who are His. Good works are what we do to produce good fruit unto the Lord as we know that is what pleases Him. Though that is not what saves us in the end.

Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, and the life!

God Bless.