Bible Discussion Thread

The Criteria for being an apostle was to have seen the resurrected Christ ( Acts 1:22)

Apostles and Prophets are the foundation of the church and Christ the Chief Cornerstone

( Eph. 2:20)

There are no more Apostles and Prophets they are the foundation.

The foundation of the church is The Word of God.

Old testament Prophets wrote most of the Old Testament, the Apostles wrote most of the New Testament, except Jude a servant, Hebrews writer unknown.

Apostles and Prophets were chosen by God for a special purpose, the Apostles were given power and authority to do the will of God.

Any one claiming to be either a prophet or an apostle in this dispensation of the church would have to be considered FALSE.

This is what brings "UNITY of the Faith"

This is what keeps you from being tossed about by every wind of doctrine.

Evangelists, pastors and teachers.

Lastly if Apostles and Prophets were relevant in this era, Paul would have told Timothy to ordain them instead of elders. But Paul knew Ecc 3:1 "There is a season for everything under the sun" and he knew the season for apostles ended with him 1Cor 15

You are not representing what is written in 1 Corinthians 12. Through Paul, the Body of Christ on this present day earth is explained. These gifts are given by the Holy Spirit; as He wills. Not as people will.

The gifts and callings are without repentance. As we stay plugged into Jesus, by way of the Holy Spirit: the gifts operate; as He wills it. He anoints the person with the gift.

If we don't know anything about these gifts, it's not going to make much sense to the natural mind. The natural mind of man/woman is at enmity with God.

There's a really good book you can pick up: "The Spiritual Man", by Watchman Nee. It will enlighten you just how useless a gift is when it's guided by a mind of carnality.

I do not mean to offend anyone at all. I found that very WEIGHTY book quite offensive! I stuck with it and knew that the rest of my life would be a battle between spiritual, or carnal (flesh; meat).

The soul is like a willful child that follows whatever is dragging it along.

The thought that we could fully give ourselves to take on the character of the Spiritual man/woman is a lifelong quest to follow the Holy Spirit. Whatever he says, do it. He will prepare us and anoint us for each task.

You need to accept that there are modern day, apostles. They are called MISSIONARIES. They go to where God leads them. The local church sends, equips, supports financially, intercedes for. They go where others are terrified to go. They could be killed for their work.

God still has Prophets. God speaks, they listen. The ones that God uses today aren't on stage: they are intercessors who give birth to Thus Saith The Lord. Ezekial 37:5. It's full time ministry. Stand in the gap; Build up a Hedge of prayer and protection. Fight off attacks from satan Eph 6. Sit in the Watchtowers. They don't have time or desire for worldly pleasures. War Room people.

We should all give our gifts to God for His use.

ISAIAH 6:7-11

Mishael

Yes surely missionaries are apostles, but I am referring to the office of an apostle not the definition of apostle.

5 Fold to start the church read your scriptures.

3 fold now the office of prophets and apostles is found today in THE WORD OF GOD.

The WORD is the foundation or should be the foundation for any true church

If you feel you need to here from some modern day prophet or apostle you are mistaken.

Heaven and earth will pass away but my WORD will live forever

Eph 2:20 Apostles and Prophets are foundation

Foundation is put down once

CHRIST is the HOLY SPIRIT if you read Colossians Chap 1 "Christ in You!"

And HE is the Chief Cornerstone

This is the era for evangelists , pastors and teachers

The Unity of the FAITH is the WORD of GOD

We now have a complete bible not letters here and there

This is what leads to not being TOSSED by every wind of DOCTRINE

The BIBLE is the STANDARD

Perhaps you should stop reading so many other books and just stick to scripture

Perhaps you will than be able to RIGHTLY divide the WORD of TRUTH

No other documents are needed just the bible

Line upon line precept upon precept

If you rely on some other person to lead you to the truth you are greatly mistaken

What does FOUNDATION mean to you?

I am not talking about missionaries.

I am talking about the men GOD CHOSE, CALLED and gave power to.

To not only do signs and wonders but who wrote the very words of the New Testament

These were special messengers with a divine calling.

A season for everything under the sun.

Do you think Until we all come to the Unity of the faith means for eternity?

Because if you have not checked there are over 4000 different faiths, so when are we expected to have unity?

The word of God brings UNITY to all who discover the hidden truths

God will have Mercy on whom he will have Mercy

and God will harden whomsoever he hardens

Bible says put your trust in No Man

Mr Gee you know your stuff ! Thankyou for sharing your conviction ,which is grounded in the Bible ,The Word Of God not the tube of you or the net of inter or the pastor of ego .