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4 Then shall the offering of Judah and Jerusalem be pleasant unto the LORD, as in the days of old, and as in former years.
5 And I will come near to you to judgment; and I will be a swift witness against the sorcerers, and against the adulterers, and against false swearers, and against those that oppress the hireling in his wages, the widow, and the fatherless, and that turn aside the stranger from his right, and fear not me, saith the LORD of hosts.
6 For I AM THE LORD, I CHANGE NOT; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
7 Even from the days of your fathers ye are gone away from mine ordinances, and have not kept them. Return unto me, and I will return unto you, saith the LORD of hosts. But ye said, Wherein shall we return?
Comment: God corrects. He doesn't change His mind about purpose.
Hello Ronny. You asked: "So Jesus being born was that a changed God?"
If by that you mean, 'Was God deficient in any way by Him sending out His Word to be clothed with flesh & live on the Earth?" I would say, No. If that same Word which was given to the prophets to utter to the people & by that same Word God spoke to the people by His Son ( Hebrews 1:1,2), then Jesus is & always has been God's utterance to the sons of men.
One could also ask, 'By God sending forth His Spirit to do His bidding both in the heavens & Earth, is God changed by such an absence or deficiency of that Person from within His Being?' Clearly, No. God is Spirit - His sending forth His Word or His Spirit would not mean an absence in God's Deity or Holiness, rather that both the Word & Spirit are vitally & inseparably connected to the Godhead. And this is obviously what man is unable to replicate because of the limitations of our finite being.
In like manner, that Word made flesh, also exemplified in human form, God's Love, Grace, Truth & Holiness. Without Jesus amongst them, the people not only wouldn't have had God's Lamb sent for their salvation but would not have seen that God had indeed come amongst them (Immanuel) to visibly show them His Heart of Love for them; & that Love took Him all the way to the Cross. That He has gone all out to secure their hearts for Himself - but they rather called Him a devil & crucified Him. What will their end be?
Jesus said before Abraham was I am . And that's because Jesus is the Son of God , and God Is before the foundation of the world So is Jesus . Yet He was not born a man until 2000 +yrs ago .
It's plain to me that God himself spoke for himself until Jesus was born , then God said this is my son listen to him . At the baptism of Jesus .
Jesus is the express image of God . But that's as close as we can get . Jesus never said I Am God not once . Why because it would be not true , he always referred to God as father , not taking the fathers place . Yet He was equal in many ways yet less than the father by his own words . My father is greater than I . And the father gave him all things , Jesus Did not have those things until God gave them to him . Not hard to understand.
Rob ,you are correct ,simple and straight forward ,how many times does God say "there is none beside me " and many similar phrases in the old testament ,one day when i have time ,i will count them all up and post them all on this site .
1 Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem,
The Bible is the inspired Word of God, to all people.
To rightly understand it and be able to live it daily: we must be born again, as Jesus tells Nicodemas in the Book of John, Chapter 3.
This website has a link page. Below the link you used to come in here, is a link named: Become a Christian. It tells you how to become a Believer in Jesus. To understand all spiritual truths.
When Did Gods Plan for Mankind39s Salvation Begin - In Reply on Revelation 6 - 3 years ago
No. Adam gave his mandate over when he and Eve ate of the fruit of the Tree of Life.
God spoke of the Word to become flesh (future) in Genesis 3:15
"15 And I will put enmity between thee (Satan), and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it (Jesus Christ) shall bruise thy head (Satans legal power), and thou shalt bruise his heel. (the nail through Jesus's feet)."
When Jesus died for the sins of all mankind on the Cross, he fulfilled the Old Covenant, and ratified the New Covenant, with his blood sacrifice as the Lamb of God. Satan didn't know that or he would have prevented it.
Jesus was resurrected on the 3rd Day. Satan was stripped of the power he had stolen from First Adam. Second Adam is Jesus. Satan has no authority over Gods born again children. Only what we give him by sinning and not asking to be forgiven. 1 John.
Jesus descended into hell's prisons, took the KEYS of Death, Hell and the Grave; out of Satans hand. Then Jesus emptied hell.
The Godhead (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) live outside of Time; and they Live inside of Time.
"In Beginning," ( Gen. 1:1) is when God began the ticking of Time.
We might crab at God, "Why did YOU let this disaster happen?! God has a will, He gave free will to mankind to use for good or evil; as a Created being, Satan has an evil will. He does all the things we blame God for. Isaiah 14:12-16
We all need to remember that. Be wary and pray daily to God: Thy Will Be Done.
In Job, we see that Satan attacked Job's family first. He stirred up an F-5 tornado against them.
Let's be informed who is responsible for what.
God is Love, God is Good. He has made all Provision for us. He even gave His only begotten Son, so that we may live eternally, IF we accept Jesus as Savior and Lord? Take your SELF off the throne of your heart; and ask Jesus to be the Lord of your Life. Be conscious of WHO has your best interests in his heart. Amen?
Malachi Chapter 3
4 Then shall the offering of Judah and Jerusalem be pleasant unto the LORD, as in the days of old, and as in former years.
5 And I will come near to you to judgment; and I will be a swift witness against the sorcerers, and against the adulterers, and against false swearers, and against those that oppress the hireling in his wages, the widow, and the fatherless, and that turn aside the stranger from his right, and fear not me, saith the LORD of hosts.
6 For I AM THE LORD, I CHANGE NOT; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
7 Even from the days of your fathers ye are gone away from mine ordinances, and have not kept them. Return unto me, and I will return unto you, saith the LORD of hosts. But ye said, Wherein shall we return?
Comment: God corrects. He doesn't change His mind about purpose.
Malachi 3:6 (KJV) For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
If by that you mean, 'Was God deficient in any way by Him sending out His Word to be clothed with flesh & live on the Earth?" I would say, No. If that same Word which was given to the prophets to utter to the people & by that same Word God spoke to the people by His Son ( Hebrews 1:1,2), then Jesus is & always has been God's utterance to the sons of men.
One could also ask, 'By God sending forth His Spirit to do His bidding both in the heavens & Earth, is God changed by such an absence or deficiency of that Person from within His Being?' Clearly, No. God is Spirit - His sending forth His Word or His Spirit would not mean an absence in God's Deity or Holiness, rather that both the Word & Spirit are vitally & inseparably connected to the Godhead. And this is obviously what man is unable to replicate because of the limitations of our finite being.
In like manner, that Word made flesh, also exemplified in human form, God's Love, Grace, Truth & Holiness. Without Jesus amongst them, the people not only wouldn't have had God's Lamb sent for their salvation but would not have seen that God had indeed come amongst them (Immanuel) to visibly show them His Heart of Love for them; & that Love took Him all the way to the Cross. That He has gone all out to secure their hearts for Himself - but they rather called Him a devil & crucified Him. What will their end be?
How did God use Jesus to speak to Abraham ?
Genesis 17.1
Genesis 22.16 ,17,18
Just a few serious problems with your theology.
It's plain to me that God himself spoke for himself until Jesus was born , then God said this is my son listen to him . At the baptism of Jesus .
Jesus is the express image of God . But that's as close as we can get . Jesus never said I Am God not once . Why because it would be not true , he always referred to God as father , not taking the fathers place . Yet He was equal in many ways yet less than the father by his own words . My father is greater than I . And the father gave him all things , Jesus Did not have those things until God gave them to him . Not hard to understand.
1 Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem,
The Bible is the inspired Word of God, to all people.
To rightly understand it and be able to live it daily: we must be born again, as Jesus tells Nicodemas in the Book of John, Chapter 3.
This website has a link page. Below the link you used to come in here, is a link named: Become a Christian. It tells you how to become a Believer in Jesus. To understand all spiritual truths.
Mishael
God spoke of the Word to become flesh (future) in Genesis 3:15
"15 And I will put enmity between thee (Satan), and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it (Jesus Christ) shall bruise thy head (Satans legal power), and thou shalt bruise his heel. (the nail through Jesus's feet)."
When Jesus died for the sins of all mankind on the Cross, he fulfilled the Old Covenant, and ratified the New Covenant, with his blood sacrifice as the Lamb of God. Satan didn't know that or he would have prevented it.
Jesus was resurrected on the 3rd Day. Satan was stripped of the power he had stolen from First Adam. Second Adam is Jesus. Satan has no authority over Gods born again children. Only what we give him by sinning and not asking to be forgiven. 1 John.
Jesus descended into hell's prisons, took the KEYS of Death, Hell and the Grave; out of Satans hand. Then Jesus emptied hell.
The Godhead (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) live outside of Time; and they Live inside of Time.
"In Beginning," ( Gen. 1:1) is when God began the ticking of Time.
We might crab at God, "Why did YOU let this disaster happen?! God has a will, He gave free will to mankind to use for good or evil; as a Created being, Satan has an evil will. He does all the things we blame God for. Isaiah 14:12-16
We all need to remember that. Be wary and pray daily to God: Thy Will Be Done.
In Job, we see that Satan attacked Job's family first. He stirred up an F-5 tornado against them.
Let's be informed who is responsible for what.
God is Love, God is Good. He has made all Provision for us. He even gave His only begotten Son, so that we may live eternally, IF we accept Jesus as Savior and Lord? Take your SELF off the throne of your heart; and ask Jesus to be the Lord of your Life. Be conscious of WHO has your best interests in his heart. Amen?
Mishael
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