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BIBLE DISCUSSION THREAD 160276

Bible Discussion Thread

 
  • Ed Stewart - 3 years ago
    I would like to know what other Christians think about the use of marijuana? I am a registered Florida State Medical Marijuana user, but prior to the allowance law, I used it for various medical reasons, unlawfully. I have been reprimanded by others using Rom.13:1" let every soul be subject unto the higher powers.. the powers that be are ordained of God." I was breaking the law, I was told. My objection was, we as Christians are also taught we are allowed to violate man's law when it violates God's law, example, Peter in Acts 5:21-28, Peter did not obey the Sanhedrin and the priests, --the ruling body of Israel, by teaching in Jesus's name, if he did he could not obey Matt.16:15 ." Go and teach." We are taught this means to obey the law and that God has ordained the position of government. As we know not all governments are of God, especially who reject God and His son Jesus. Government is a necessity. What do we do when we know the Government is violating God's law and His Word? Back to the issue of Marijuana. Gen.1:29 " And God said, Behold I HAVE GIVEN YOU every herb bearing seed", Gen. 1:31" Everything He had made was VERY GOOD". For thousands of years it was used variously, the plant has multi uses, Then all of a sudden ( 1939) man claims HIS creation is bad, and arrests are made of the users. Now the medicinal uses are recognized, world wide. Most of the U.S. has approved it's use medically. some states recreational. God's Word teaches moderation , study the uses of alcohol in the Bible. It has use and abuse + the wine of that day when fermenting was mixed .3 to .6 water, not like today's wine. Marijuana is the same, it can be used and abused, like anything else in this world. Growing up I had and still to some degree have ADHD. Marijuana has helped me become more focused. I was a terror growing up, always in trouble until I started using Marijuana in High School, then I was able to focus. I have 3 degrees now, Master's in Ministry study W/G mostly.
  • Adam - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hello Ed,

    I believe smoking marijuana is a sin. It is more carcinogenic than cigarette smoking and has no filters for the large particles to enter and damage your lungs. I believe doing things harmful to your body is a sin. God says our bodies are to be treated as a holy temple. Our bodies aren't even ours. They are on loan from God. We are just temporary inhabitants- we are actually a soul/spirit, not a physical being. So, we have a responsibility to take care of and honor our bodies. Addictions are also sinful.

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    Now, to the argument that 'God made it, therefore it is always good (including in excess)'. Ok, that one phrase could be used to justify gluttony, drunkenness, violating God's holy temple, fornication, sodomy, stealing, and a number of evil sins. So, is that 'justification' true? No, I believe it is not. You can argue that everything evil is made from materials from the earth so therefore it's good. That's just a deceitful lie. For instance, weapons are all made from natural materials, therefore it's 'OK' to use them on others? Meth, Cocaine, heroine, should be given to kids and even babies, because it's from ingredients God made, right? As you can see this one attempt at justification can be used for an unlimited amount of evil. And everyone who commits evil uses creative rationalizations just like this, without realizing it.

    The fact that you're asking this question means something within you feels a moral dilemma and you aren't 100% sure it's not a sin to do. Your conscience can be a guide- God gave us the holy spirit to help guide us through moral decisions such as this. The first thing to do is pray to God about this and ask Him directly and listen for confirmation for how best you can live a life in a worthy manner. Would Jesus smoke weed? Should a pastor smoke weed during a sermon? Would you be a good Christ-like example to your family, friends, others by doing it?
  • Richard in Christ - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Ed,

    After reading your post and seeing it is on marijuana usage I feel to post my personal experience.

    I smoked/used marijuana straight/daily for around 24 years. It was a normal everyday thing for me and I'd say helped me get through stress, help me relax.

    After coming to the Lord Jesus Christ I was having the thoughts, as you, that marijuana is a plant that God made and not "bad" to use it. One night I did as normal. Though the feeling that came upon me was very scary. Not normal as my heart was racing and I felt terrible. I went to sleep and the next morning I was fine. That night I thought "maybe that was just some odd night" and smoked again like normal. Again I felt very scared. So scared I got my father to take me to the hospital as I knew something was wrong. As I felt better in the hospital then the doctor saying everything was perfect after a blood test.

    I got home and looked at my smoking device and said "well, it looks like I'm not smoking weed anymore". That was the last time I smoked weed. I believe it was the Holy Spirit in me guiding me to the ways of Christ. As many other things have changed in my life after receiving Christ into my life and giving myself to Him.

    I believe the Lord want's us to be sober. As written in the Holy Bible. Sure drinking a beer or two or mixing a little wine with your water. I don't think there's any harm in that as you won't feel anything "drunkenness" from it.

    We're all different people and I can only tell you what happened to me and that the Holy Ghost lead me away from marijuana.

    As you stated it helps you in some way. And it is valiant of you asking others perspective on this issue. Though I would say the best thing to do is pray to the Lord Jesus Christ about it. Ask Him to guide you in the way He wants and to heal you of your issues, that you believe weed helps with.

    The Lord is our medicine and life. He can fix anything.

    I pray my post shall help you in your journey with the Lord.

    God Bless.
  • Using Natural Herbs for Illness - In Reply - 3 years ago
    1 Corinthians 6:12

    All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the POWERS of any.

    1 Corinthians 10:23

    All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things EDIFY not.

    John 1:3

    ALL THINGS were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

    GENESIS speaks on plants, herbs, things for food, tea, coffee, seasoning, etc. God blessed all of it.

    We know because of history, man has used various things to make alcoholic beverages.

    Paul told Timothy to take a little wine for his jittery stomach.

    Our conscious is alive to God. We know when we're over-stepping the line of the permissive Will of God. Don't blame him for DWI's, manslaughter etc. TEMPERANCE is the key word here. It's a fruit of the Holy Spirit.

    If Satan is accusing you ( JOB 1), Jesus is your Advocate ( 1 John 2:1); he's your defense Attorney.

    Medical Marijuana is legal now. It's just a matter of having your doctor give permission for you to use it.

    I only say that because for a long time it was illegal. People prosecuted for it may still be in prison?

    Maybe some other comments from others will be or, not be helpful. I think you're being accused by the devil. To get his case Dismissed, all you need to do is to confess the entire case in front of the Judge. You wouldn't be here if you were not sorrowful over past years.

    Satan has a very weak case. God made marijuana to serve as an herb. Problems happen because of how people want everything free. No regulation. As long as Governments and Cartels are dealing in it. It's going to have problems.

    Repent and go the legalized route. Problem solved. It's much better than ingesting chemical opioids. Chemicals are dangerous and alter brain chemistry. Stops natural hormone production.

    (ok guys, don't email me. I'll read your comments in here ok? :) Mishael



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