Bible Discussion Thread

The pillows are covering his outstretched hands. He wants his children to come to him but false preachers are covering the truth with the rapture theory. Everyone is changed at the coming of Jesus Christ. Not just Christian's. We remain on earth. The earth is restored after the millennium.

Vickie,

If the end starts in our lifetime the teachings of the rapture of the Church to heaven, will have many not prepared for what is coming. ( Daniel 12:1) ( Matthew 24:29-31) ( Mark 13:24-27) tell us after the tribulation Jesus sends His angels to gather His elect, the second coming, not the third.

The great tribulation is confused with the wrath of God. We will be spared the wrath of God but we are not told we will be spared tribulation, ( Acts 14:22) ( Romans 8:35) (2 Thessalonian 1:4). When the end starts and the things that scripture tells us that is coming, I feel many that trust in this teaching will lose their faith because they are still here.

"But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved".

All the saints before, and what they had to endure, burning at the stake, crucifixion, beheadings, fed to lions, and more. Are we better or more worthy than they, to be spared? Do we exalt ourselves above those who came before us? Christians are still today being killed.

1 Thessalonians 4: 16-17 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

This verse is said shows we meet Jesus and are taken to heaven. Is anywhere in this verse where our destination is? Does this verse say we go to heaven? How can we assume something that is not written? Does being carried to heaven line up with the other scriptures about Jesus's second coming? Where are the chosen told they will reign, heaven or earth?

Millions of dollars have been made from this theory.

2 Peter 2:3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

May we walk and be led by the Holy Spirit of truth.

RLW

21 Then I saw "a new heaven and a new earth,"[a](A) for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away,(B) and there was no longer any sea. 2 I saw the Holy City,(C) the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God,(D) prepared as a bride(E) beautifully dressed for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Look! God's dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them.(F)

Do you not believe these Bible verses?

1 Thessalonians 4:17

Luke 17:34-37

Thank you for sharing TRUTH Vicki. The rapture theory is nothing more than a "fable of man". Again, thank you and may God keep you true to His Word.

Do you not believe God's Word in 1 Thessalonians 4:17 or Luke 17:34-37 then?

Hi Vicki,

Is there a passage ANYWHERE in the Bible where it requires you to either believe or disbelieve the rapture as a requirement for salvation??

there's differences throughout the scripture, some that determine salvation and some don't.

THE RAPTURE ISN'T ONE THAT "DETERMINES" YOUR SALVATION .

Jesus commanded us to Go out and be a part of teaching and preaching the Gospel,

That should be where your heart and passion should be.

These differences shouldn't divide us!!

God bless.

Sorry but as a matter of fact it does. Those who believe that there is a rapture think that Christ comes first. When the bible tells you explicitly that the anti- christ comes first. Which means that those people are worshipping Satan instead of waiting for the real Christ. Blessed are those when the Lord comes he finds still working in the field. Read your bible.

Vicki.

Im sorry if I upset when I asked "

Is there a passage ANYWHERE in the Bible where it requires you to either believe or disbelieve the rapture as a requirement for salvation??

If I'm wrong I stand to be corrected.

Please give the passages!!!

You stated "those who believe there's a rapture believes Christ comes first "

That's not true!!

There's some believe Christ comes in the clouds before the antichrist ( pre trib.)

There's some believes Christ comes in the middle of the tribulation. ( Mid trib )

And there's some says Christ comes at the end of the Tribulation. ( Post trib..)

You quoted.

Matthew 24:46 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.

DOING WHAT?? Talking about the rapture or spreading the Gospel??

Getting someone to see as you do in this matter about the rapture won't save lives!!

That's all I was saying.

However we do no the saints are removed.



1 Thessalonians 4:17. Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

God bless.

All will be transfigured at the appearance of Christ. Not just Christian's spirited away and non Christian's left on the earth. Daniel, revelations, 2 Thessalonians. All say the antichrist comes first deceiving those who think he is the true Christ. And by peace he shall destroy many. I am definitely not upset.

Hi vicki.

thank you,

as you said, " we should be found working"

one day we will have to give an account of what we done in the body,

i imagine some are going to be looking for those people they have convinced there's no rapture, or it's post trib or pre trib or whatever.

i imagine there will be some who also live their lives every day fighting those who believe in the trinity, looking for those they convinced there's no trinity,

and the lord tells them, those thousands of people you spoke to never made it because you never talked to them about the cross!!!.

if you would have planted a seed i would have made it grow!!!

and i would have given them my spirit and he would have taught them all things!!! ( things man can't teach ).

let's work together and do what comes first!!

god bless.

Jesus is the word that became flesh, your high Priest and your sacrifice. One of the most important things that he told his apostles is there will be many antichrist hat appear first. Revelations use connotations such as bride wedding and whore. The bride is Christian's, the wedding is the return of Jesus for them and the whore is the false Christ and the organization of them promoting him as Jesus. The most important thing is to worship the right Christ.

Amen Vicki.

That will be the most important thing for those who will be here.

Myself and many others prepared not to be here. One way or another we be about our fathers business. Do the work!!!

John 6:28-29. Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?

Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye BELIEVE ON HIM WHOM HE HATH SENT..

Acts 16:31 And they said, BELIEVE ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

Matthew 28:19-20. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

For now we preach the message that saves lives.

The Cross!!

Amen

I would that you would have meat, but you would only have pablum.

I made shoes for everyone, even you, while I still go barefoot.