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There are scriptures that say the New Jerusalem is coming DOWN to Earth. One of them being:
Revelation 3:12
Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh DOWN out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
What do you think about this? There are other scriptures speaking of it.
Who was the man with the hair. who brought down the temple upon the enemy. Do you remember His name! The one with the hair! Was he not a pillar, who stood alone while the others fell! Thanks be to God! through Jesus Christ the Lord of Heaven and earth!! This one who has all power ,fills all and is all things!
Now I remember, Samson and Dalilah! You talk about a guy on a hair trigger! He proclaimed the word and fulfilled at one time! Surrounded by His enemy, no fear at all! We need more priests in the church like Him!
Good evening Mishael, My meditations of New Jerusalem are as a peaceable kingdom now present and abiding in temples not made with hands, this is the reign of Jesus Christ on and in earth as King of Kings and Lord of Lords.
Likewise I believe New Jerusalem by unbelief is under attack by the world which is Satan's domain, even my own flesh, mostly due to fear, must die daily.
When we are raised up in eternal and Holy bodies, we with the Holy One of Israel will continue this reign as one Holy body, an eternal city, with purpose, for all eternity.
Brother Carleton, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.
I BELIEVE ALSO the words you wrote.
We are living in the truth of the kingdom of God (CHRIST IN YOU); NOW, because we have not as YET, been given the FULLNESS OF CHRIST.
I BELIEVE when are given this fullness of Christ; at the death of this body of flesh, we began to rule and reign with Christ in righteousness, planting OUR SEED (CHRIST IN US) in OTHERS. Because as CHRIST LIVES IN US WE WILL ALSO LIVE IN THEM. THIS is the WAY that ALL will be SUBDUED to CHRIST.
I BELIEVE this is representative of the thousand years referred to in Revelation and not literally one thousand years.
I BELIEVE GOD is CALLING OUT a select group of people NOW to be the PRIEST in the kingdom of God.
When these Priest have all been glorified; then Christ will raise all the dead and Christ and his Priest will judge them and CAUSE them to ALSO understand THE GOSPEL; Christ in you.
I BELIEVE the parable of the workers called at different times of the day; but all given the same reward, PRIESTHOOD confirms this belief.
I didn't include any scriptures because I believe you probably already know them.
And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God".
May we be led by the Holy Spirit of truth and not by man.
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
What I don't understand is why would the earth pass away after the saints spent 1,000 years repairing it with Christ? What exactly are they doing with their time with Christ?
What Happens in Heaven After the Rapture - In Reply - 3 years ago
First we attend a wedding feast to all those that accepted Jesus's invitation to the Marriage Supper. It makes more sense when you read about what a Jewish Wedding entails. It's pretty cool.
The Groom(Jesus) has prepared living quarters for all people who make up the Bride.
I don't know how long this lasts. I only know we will ride behind Jesus on white horses, at the end of the Tribulation.
At some point, we will all attend the REWARDS ceremony OR no rewards. Google search the Bema Seat of Christ and type Teaching, after it; and google search the Five Crowns.
It's my understanding that this period will last 1000 years.
Satan will be loosed a 'short time' (from hell) to tempt all the people that were born again AFTER the Rapture, and survived the Tribulation on earth; including the children born to them. They are taken to heaven in their earthly bodies. They are the ones Satan will tempt.
[After he completes his task, his next gig is the Lake of Fire. Good riddance.]
There is another 1000 years until the Great White Throne Judgment by God.
The earth was cleansed after people were removed. 2 Peter 3:10-12, Rev. 21:1,
Isa. 51:6
1. I don't know who is going to live in New Jerusalem and who isn't.
2. I believe at this point people may be on Earth? There is a scripture somewhere that says God purges the scars of man and restores earth to like Eden was (before the serpent incident).
I hope Chris will have some additional comments here? It's been many years since I studied this. I'm one of those 'what are we doing today', kind of people :)
Last Minute Details We Are Looking For - In Reply - 3 years ago
The only thing I'm confident about, is that we are waiting for last minute salvations. The last person.
As in a Jewish Wedding, Jesus is preparing the Home of the Bridegroom and the Bride of Christ. A banquette is being prepared.
New Jerusalem is somewhere where no scientists can view it. They're all in a frenzy to move to Mars or Venus; space stations for the rich and famous; Thinking they can escape these prophesies the Bible & the Church speak about.
Now is the time, to Teach Them, about WHO created time: for humans and creatures. It takes strength of faith to say that Gods Finger started the ticking of Time. In BEGINNING...
We all missed it because it was a 2-word statement. Original language, says 'In Beginning'; NOT 'in THE beginning.'
It's painful to explain earth science, archaeology, etc. because the earth was here before the moment God set time in motion. It makes me feel completely secure with what I know about God. God purposed it, the WORD OF GOD spoke it; the Spirit of God performed it.
We have The Mind of Christ, as believers in Him. We are able to understand what that means. We can ask questions and the Holy Spirit will Teach Us Believers, the mysteries. God knows if we can accept the Truth.
God lives outside of time, and He is present in the Time He started for His Creation. He is Alpha and Omega. He sees us from the beginning, to the last moment. There isn't anything He's surprised about. He hears our prayers and requests and we know that He desires to bless his children. He hears the desires of our hearts. Don't despair. Pray about everything. Reverence the Lord.
We're going to witness some of the greatest events! Don't miss out on that. Hang tight onto Jesus. The hourglass is dwindling. Get friends in, before it's too late for them. Don't look at the "world", as it closes the door of their HEARTS upon Jesus's Knocking. Choose Life, not Death.
Sea refers to many many waters. Revelation 13:v.1 - And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a Beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
And waters mean; peoples, and nations, and multitudes, and tongues
Revelation 17:v.15 - 15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
No sea;
Revelation 21:v.8 - 8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
On the other hand: Luke 20:v.35-36
35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage: (no sea)
36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.
Hello Wesley, My meditation: the earth that we know in the flesh has several seas. One thing a sea does is separate cities, with no more sea, likely there is no more separation between God and man in the Holy City for those who know Christ in the flesh.
What happens with transfigured Jesus Christ on earth, the heavens, during the thousand years to make the old earth and heavens pass away? More allegory and metaphoric imagery, and dust to settle.
The 1000 Year Kingdom will be on the earth, not in heaven, ( Revelation 11:15) It will be a time when Lord Jesus and those chosen to rule the nations with an iron rod ( Revelation 5:10). We know from ( Revelation 20:7-10), nations after the 1000 years.
The thousand-year reign of Jesus, will be after the great tribulation of Satan, the beast and the false prophet. The second coming of Jesus with the army of angels, ( Matthew 24: 29-31) ( Mark 13: 24-27) the first resurrected saints that meet Jesus in the air, ( 1 Thessalonians 4:17) Jesus' feet land on Mount of Olives ( Zechariah 14:4)
The beast and the false prophet are cast into the lake of fire and the ten king's armies of the beast that came up on Jerusalem to battle are destroyed. ( Revelation 19:11-21) and Satan is chained and put in the bottomless pit.
Then the judgment seat of Christ for those that have been chosen to reign with Him in this Millennium Kingdom. ( Revelation 20: 4-6) People will live and die during this time. and when it is over, Satan will be released and bring an army for one last battle and fire comes down and Satan is cast in the lake of fire. ( Revelation 20:7-10)
White Throne Judgment of the rest of the dead. The goats and the sheep, "some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt", "they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation" Revelation 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. And then ( Revelation 21) The marriage and the marriage supper. Jesus said at the last supper ( Matthew 26:29) ( Mark 14:25) ( Luke 22:18) when it is new.
The purpose of the thousand-year reign is to put this world in order and allow for the fulfillment of several promises God made with Israel, David and others.
This is a brief view of what I see from my study, I am sure some, maybe you, will disagree and that's ok, may it cause study.
I don't believe the Millennium is where the earth is being restored, We do know from the scripture the devil will be chained during that period and loosed again,
This is not where all of creation will be lifted from the curse of sin by Adam.
Romans 8:22. For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
We know there will still be sin and death in the Millennium.
I believe the restoration is where we see the new Jerusalem comes down and there's a New Heaven and New Earth.
The devil want be able to go to and from as we see in job.
Revelation 3:12
Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh DOWN out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
What do you think about this? There are other scriptures speaking of it.
Likewise I believe New Jerusalem by unbelief is under attack by the world which is Satan's domain, even my own flesh, mostly due to fear, must die daily.
When we are raised up in eternal and Holy bodies, we with the Holy One of Israel will continue this reign as one Holy body, an eternal city, with purpose, for all eternity.
I BELIEVE ALSO the words you wrote.
We are living in the truth of the kingdom of God (CHRIST IN YOU); NOW, because we have not as YET, been given the FULLNESS OF CHRIST.
I BELIEVE when are given this fullness of Christ; at the death of this body of flesh, we began to rule and reign with Christ in righteousness, planting OUR SEED (CHRIST IN US) in OTHERS. Because as CHRIST LIVES IN US WE WILL ALSO LIVE IN THEM. THIS is the WAY that ALL will be SUBDUED to CHRIST.
I BELIEVE this is representative of the thousand years referred to in Revelation and not literally one thousand years.
I BELIEVE GOD is CALLING OUT a select group of people NOW to be the PRIEST in the kingdom of God.
When these Priest have all been glorified; then Christ will raise all the dead and Christ and his Priest will judge them and CAUSE them to ALSO understand THE GOSPEL; Christ in you.
I BELIEVE the parable of the workers called at different times of the day; but all given the same reward, PRIESTHOOD confirms this belief.
I didn't include any scriptures because I believe you probably already know them.
( Revelation 19:9)
And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God".
May we be led by the Holy Spirit of truth and not by man.
RLW
( Revelation 21:1-2)
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
What I don't understand is why would the earth pass away after the saints spent 1,000 years repairing it with Christ? What exactly are they doing with their time with Christ?
Are you speaking of the Millennium?
The Groom(Jesus) has prepared living quarters for all people who make up the Bride.
I don't know how long this lasts. I only know we will ride behind Jesus on white horses, at the end of the Tribulation.
At some point, we will all attend the REWARDS ceremony OR no rewards. Google search the Bema Seat of Christ and type Teaching, after it; and google search the Five Crowns.
It's my understanding that this period will last 1000 years.
Satan will be loosed a 'short time' (from hell) to tempt all the people that were born again AFTER the Rapture, and survived the Tribulation on earth; including the children born to them. They are taken to heaven in their earthly bodies. They are the ones Satan will tempt.
[After he completes his task, his next gig is the Lake of Fire. Good riddance.]
There is another 1000 years until the Great White Throne Judgment by God.
The earth was cleansed after people were removed. 2 Peter 3:10-12, Rev. 21:1,
Isa. 51:6
1. I don't know who is going to live in New Jerusalem and who isn't.
2. I believe at this point people may be on Earth? There is a scripture somewhere that says God purges the scars of man and restores earth to like Eden was (before the serpent incident).
I hope Chris will have some additional comments here? It's been many years since I studied this. I'm one of those 'what are we doing today', kind of people :)
Mishael
As in a Jewish Wedding, Jesus is preparing the Home of the Bridegroom and the Bride of Christ. A banquette is being prepared.
New Jerusalem is somewhere where no scientists can view it. They're all in a frenzy to move to Mars or Venus; space stations for the rich and famous; Thinking they can escape these prophesies the Bible & the Church speak about.
Now is the time, to Teach Them, about WHO created time: for humans and creatures. It takes strength of faith to say that Gods Finger started the ticking of Time. In BEGINNING...
We all missed it because it was a 2-word statement. Original language, says 'In Beginning'; NOT 'in THE beginning.'
It's painful to explain earth science, archaeology, etc. because the earth was here before the moment God set time in motion. It makes me feel completely secure with what I know about God. God purposed it, the WORD OF GOD spoke it; the Spirit of God performed it.
We have The Mind of Christ, as believers in Him. We are able to understand what that means. We can ask questions and the Holy Spirit will Teach Us Believers, the mysteries. God knows if we can accept the Truth.
God lives outside of time, and He is present in the Time He started for His Creation. He is Alpha and Omega. He sees us from the beginning, to the last moment. There isn't anything He's surprised about. He hears our prayers and requests and we know that He desires to bless his children. He hears the desires of our hearts. Don't despair. Pray about everything. Reverence the Lord.
We're going to witness some of the greatest events! Don't miss out on that. Hang tight onto Jesus. The hourglass is dwindling. Get friends in, before it's too late for them. Don't look at the "world", as it closes the door of their HEARTS upon Jesus's Knocking. Choose Life, not Death.
Mishael
And waters mean; peoples, and nations, and multitudes, and tongues
Revelation 17:v.15 - 15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
No sea;
Revelation 21:v.8 - 8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
On the other hand: Luke 20:v.35-36
35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage: (no sea)
36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.
What happens with transfigured Jesus Christ on earth, the heavens, during the thousand years to make the old earth and heavens pass away? More allegory and metaphoric imagery, and dust to settle.
The 1000 Year Kingdom will be on the earth, not in heaven, ( Revelation 11:15) It will be a time when Lord Jesus and those chosen to rule the nations with an iron rod ( Revelation 5:10). We know from ( Revelation 20:7-10), nations after the 1000 years.
The thousand-year reign of Jesus, will be after the great tribulation of Satan, the beast and the false prophet. The second coming of Jesus with the army of angels, ( Matthew 24: 29-31) ( Mark 13: 24-27) the first resurrected saints that meet Jesus in the air, ( 1 Thessalonians 4:17) Jesus' feet land on Mount of Olives ( Zechariah 14:4)
The beast and the false prophet are cast into the lake of fire and the ten king's armies of the beast that came up on Jerusalem to battle are destroyed. ( Revelation 19:11-21) and Satan is chained and put in the bottomless pit.
Then the judgment seat of Christ for those that have been chosen to reign with Him in this Millennium Kingdom. ( Revelation 20: 4-6) People will live and die during this time. and when it is over, Satan will be released and bring an army for one last battle and fire comes down and Satan is cast in the lake of fire. ( Revelation 20:7-10)
White Throne Judgment of the rest of the dead. The goats and the sheep, "some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt", "they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation" Revelation 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. And then ( Revelation 21) The marriage and the marriage supper. Jesus said at the last supper ( Matthew 26:29) ( Mark 14:25) ( Luke 22:18) when it is new.
The purpose of the thousand-year reign is to put this world in order and allow for the fulfillment of several promises God made with Israel, David and others.
This is a brief view of what I see from my study, I am sure some, maybe you, will disagree and that's ok, may it cause study.
RLW
I don't believe the Millennium is where the earth is being restored, We do know from the scripture the devil will be chained during that period and loosed again,
This is not where all of creation will be lifted from the curse of sin by Adam.
Romans 8:22. For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
We know there will still be sin and death in the Millennium.
I believe the restoration is where we see the new Jerusalem comes down and there's a New Heaven and New Earth.
The devil want be able to go to and from as we see in job.
God bless
You said:
"There is another 1000 years until the Great White Throne Judgment by God".
Oh no my friend, there is only one thousand year period. Why would you want us to wait any longer? You're funny.
I knew that you knew the answer, and this was a teachable moment.
For the balance, someday maybe I'll remember to forget.
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