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It was around year 95AD. The angel of the Lord said to John: Revelation 1:v.20 -
20 - The MYSTERY of the seven STARS which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden CANDLESTICKS. The seven STARS are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven CANDLESTICKS which thou sawest are the seven CHURCHES.
Now we are in the time of Apocalypse, i.e. in the end of the times.
Question: In the verse above - Revelation 1:v.20- the 7 CHURCHES are 7 candlesticks; and the TWO CANDLESTICKS of the current time as is written in Revelation 11:v.4?
Ephesians 3:v.8-10
8 Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ;
9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the MYSTERY, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:
10 To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the CHURCH the manifold wisdom of God,
Colossians 1:v.24 says:
Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for His body's sake, which is the CHURCH:
That said, which are the two CHURCHES -two CANDLESTICKS- of this current time of Apocalypse?
You asked "Question: In the verse above - Revelation 1:v.20- the 7 CHURCHES are 7 candlesticks; and the TWO CANDLESTICKS of the current time as is written in Revelation 11:v.4?" and then this: "That said, which are the two CHURCHES -two CANDLESTICKS- of this current time of Apocalypse?"
This is not a proper question, but I can deduct what you are asking.
If you research the origin of the two candlesticks ad two olive trees, you will find out that they are symbolic of both houses of Israel standing before God. These are the two witnesses from Revelation 7, the 144K sealed that are virgins and follow the lamb wherever He goes. The group sealed for one thousand two hundred & sixty days in Revelation 12 are saints? They are regarded as the highest of saints, and scattered throughout in verses you've read many times over without making the connection. That's why you came here to learn
Let's use the Bible to define who the witnesses are by association. Their mission is to record antichrists exploits; Jesus said 2 are needed to bare witness. These 2 are the sealed 12 tribes from Israel and Judah. The witnesses are in Revelation 5, 7, 11, 12, 14 & more.
Who are the candlesticks and olive trees?
( Jeremiah 11:16)
The LORD called thy name, A green olive tree, fair, and of goodly fruit: with the noise of a great tumult he hath kindled fire upon it, and the branches of it are broken.
(Zachariah 4:11-14)
11 Then answered I, and said unto him, What are these two olive trees upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof?
14 Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth.
The OT saints were given white robes and told to wait a "little season" (5th seal through 7th trumpet) when their fellowservants (144K) are killed in the great tribulation.
( Revelation 6:9-11)
9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
11 And WHITE ROBES were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their FELLOWSERVANTS also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.
( Revelation 7:13-14)
13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in WHITE ROBES? and whence came they?
14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of GREAT TRIBULATION, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
The 144K sealed are the two witnesses from each house.
You can spin this any way you like, but the two witnesses are the 144K sealed saints from the whole house of Israel.
This is the very reason I stopped discussing the Bible end-times with anyone. It turns into confusion of tongues, where each man has his prideful version of the dream, backed by vague scripture. Someone stuck in his ways, so as not to hear when it knocks, loses, he doubly loses professing the wrong doctrine. I've learned a few great things here because I listened to the Word, and realized that the word I had was faulty.
What did you expect? The match you are searching for is rarely found. It reminds me of when I was a youngster, and trying to make sense of so many strange Biblical theories. I can tell you that spiritual liberty is found within you; you are all you need, and that's everything. You are best reading, studying, and keeping to yourself. Never in your life tell a soul what you know is the truth.
Please explain why the two witnesses are not sealed, neither in Revelation 7 What will they do for 42 months?
Please explain why the 144K are sealed? What will they do for 42 months?
You said only the two witnesses die in the street, and not the 144K?
Then why are the 144K standing in front of the throne, resurrected?
( Revelation 14:1-4)
1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Zion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.
2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:
3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.
AND AGAIN IN REVELATION 7 we see the 144K getting sealed, and immediately afterwards the same 144K are seen in WHITE ROBES in heaven, after being redeemed from the great tribulation in vs 13-14.
13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
The two witness and 144K are one in the same. The two witnesses are SYMBOLIC of themselves.
God's book fooled you. Allow the Bible to define itself, not some copy n' paste internet article. I strongly believe that you owe me an apology for explaining away this issue as if my assertion was ill-conceived.
Chapter 7 reveals the number of FAITHFUL Israelites who will be saved, in fact they are the prophetic remnant of the 12 tribes of Israel, they will be saved from imminent dangers. As it is written, all Jews who do not have the seal of GOD on their foreheads will be grievously tormented, and their torment will be like the torment of the scorpion when it hurts man.
Furthermore, GOD will punish severily the unfaithful Jews, God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: believe in him whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, and with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the Truth, that they might be saved, so they all might be damned who believed not the truth - BELIEVED NOT IN JESUS -, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
Yeah, except the sealed and faithful 144K, everyone else will believe in the esoteric, and kabbalistic, and spiritist messiah, a false messiah, Who will oppose and exalt himself above all that is called GOD, or that is worshipped; so that he as God will sit in the temple of GOD, shewing himself that he is God.
The prophetic message of JESUS will fulfil LITERALLY. As JESUS said: John 5:v.43-47:
43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if ANOTHER shall come in his own name (AN IMPOSTOR, A FALSE MESSIAH, A DECEIVER MESSIAH), him ye will receive.
Matthew 23:v. 31-35
33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.
32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city,that
You didn't answer my questions. You said I was "wrong" about the 2 witnesses, but not why. You had to Google it, I recognized the script you copied. Therefore, I will answer the questions for you:
The 144K are the church, they are Christ's bride. The 2 witnesses, the two candlesticks & two olive trees, the woman from Revelation 12, are all symbolism, metaphors, and allegory describing the 144K. The 2 witnesses and the 144K have the same mission, within the same time frame. You still can't make the connection?
( Psalms 52:8) But I am like a green olive tree in the house of God: I trust in the mercy of God for ever and ever.
A single nation was an olive tree. A nation divided became two olive trees, two houses, two witnesses.
Below are 5 scripture depictions of the 144K on route to or in heaven. After being called up to heaven, the firstfruits are gathered for their judgment. The 144K "witnesses" are judged and resurrected in the twinkling of an eye. Look how the Rev 7 & Rev 11 stories parallel each other.
( Revelation 11:12) And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.
( Revelation 7:9) After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
( Revelation 7:14)...These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
Revelation 14:1-4
Revelation 20:4
Can it get any clearer? The 2 witnesses die, and no sooner do they appear in heaven as the coveted 144K. I have no idea where you stand, but, If you're going to dismiss my interpretation, the burden is on you to back it up with facts. Can you post your own ideas about the 2 witnesses for me to review?
Richard said:"You didn't answer my questions.You said I was"wrong"about the 2 witnesses,but not why.You had to Google it,I recognized the script you copied."
No,not Google script,you lie.My point is the Holy Scriptures,not your conjectures and false interpretations of the Word of GOD as posted.I have nothing to do with your counterfeit of the Word of GOD,much less to have to comment on your devilish lies.
To let readers know,here's quoted part of my post you replyed:
Richard You are wrong.Rev.7 reveals the number of FAITHFUL Israelites who will be saved,they are the prophetic remnant of the 12 tribes of Israel,they will be saved from imminent dangers.As it is written in the Word of GOD,all Jews who do not have the seal of GOD on their foreheads will be grievously tormented,and their torment will be like the torment of the scorpion when it hurts man.
Furthermore,GOD will punish severely the unfaithful Jews, God will send them strong delusion that they should believe a lie:believe in him whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, and with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish-2Ts.2-because they received not the love of the Truth,that they might be saved,so they all might be damned who believed not the truth-BELIEVED NOT IN JESUS-but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
Yeah, except the sealed and faithful 144K,everyone else will believe in the esoteric,and kabbalistic,and spiritist messiah,a false messiah,"Who will oppose and exalt himself above all that is called GOD,or that is worshipped;so that he as God will sit in the temple of GOD, shewing himself that he is God"-2Ts.2.
The prophetic message of JESUS will fulfil LITERALLY. John 5:43-47:
43 I am come in my Father's name,and ye receive me not: if ANOTHER shall come in his own name(AN IMPOSTOR,A FALSE MESSIAH,A DECEIVER MESSIAH),him ye will receive.
Mat.23:31-35
33
Ye serpents,ye generation of vipers,how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
20 - The MYSTERY of the seven STARS which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden CANDLESTICKS. The seven STARS are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven CANDLESTICKS which thou sawest are the seven CHURCHES.
Now we are in the time of Apocalypse, i.e. in the end of the times.
Question: In the verse above - Revelation 1:v.20- the 7 CHURCHES are 7 candlesticks; and the TWO CANDLESTICKS of the current time as is written in Revelation 11:v.4?
Ephesians 3:v.8-10
8 Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ;
9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the MYSTERY, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:
10 To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the CHURCH the manifold wisdom of God,
Colossians 1:v.24 says:
Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for His body's sake, which is the CHURCH:
That said, which are the two CHURCHES -two CANDLESTICKS- of this current time of Apocalypse?
You asked "Question: In the verse above - Revelation 1:v.20- the 7 CHURCHES are 7 candlesticks; and the TWO CANDLESTICKS of the current time as is written in Revelation 11:v.4?" and then this: "That said, which are the two CHURCHES -two CANDLESTICKS- of this current time of Apocalypse?"
This is not a proper question, but I can deduct what you are asking.
If you research the origin of the two candlesticks ad two olive trees, you will find out that they are symbolic of both houses of Israel standing before God. These are the two witnesses from Revelation 7, the 144K sealed that are virgins and follow the lamb wherever He goes. The group sealed for one thousand two hundred & sixty days in Revelation 12 are saints? They are regarded as the highest of saints, and scattered throughout in verses you've read many times over without making the connection. That's why you came here to learn
Thank you for your reply. Reading the content of your post, honestly I'm not convinced of your theory because in
Revelation 11, the two candlesticks (for me two Churches) standing before the God of the earth, as being two
witnesses, they both will receive Power or be enpowered to shut heaven (to close the Dispensation of Grace or to finish
it), that it rain not in the days (1.260 days) of their prophecy. And both have Power over waters (over peoples, and
nations, and multitudes of all tongues - Gentile peoples) to turn them to blood; And to smite the earth (earth here can
only be the place or nation of the birth of the Beast of earth who has two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a Dragon-
Revelation 13:v.11-18- a false lamb of course, with two horns) , yeah, to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as
they will.
I see in advance that there will be two Beasts on the Earth in near future, they are:
1 - the Man Beast of sea, with his headquarter in Europe-Rome;
2 - the Man Beast of the earth, an esoteric, and kabbalistic, and spiritist Beast, who will oppose and exalt himself above
all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God will sit in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is
God.
That said I would ask: Would not be this ruthless Man Beast of the earth the same Character that is mentioned in
Rev.11:v.4 that says "the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth" whose Country must be smite with all
plagues in the last week, the week 70th of Daniel 9:v.27?
Let's use the Bible to define who the witnesses are by association. Their mission is to record antichrists exploits; Jesus said 2 are needed to bare witness. These 2 are the sealed 12 tribes from Israel and Judah. The witnesses are in Revelation 5, 7, 11, 12, 14 & more.
Who are the candlesticks and olive trees?
( Jeremiah 11:16)
The LORD called thy name, A green olive tree, fair, and of goodly fruit: with the noise of a great tumult he hath kindled fire upon it, and the branches of it are broken.
(Zachariah 4:11-14)
11 Then answered I, and said unto him, What are these two olive trees upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof?
14 Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth.
The OT saints were given white robes and told to wait a "little season" (5th seal through 7th trumpet) when their fellowservants (144K) are killed in the great tribulation.
( Revelation 6:9-11)
9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
11 And WHITE ROBES were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their FELLOWSERVANTS also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.
( Revelation 7:13-14)
13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in WHITE ROBES? and whence came they?
14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of GREAT TRIBULATION, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
The 144K sealed are the two witnesses from each house.
No, Robert, the 144K are not the two witnesses, absolutely, and they will not "be killed in the
great tribulation", as you said. The 144K will be sealed in their foreheads as the servants of
our God from now on- Revelation 7:v.1-4. These are the remnant of Israel that will be saved
-Is.10:v.20-22. These will be redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and
to the Lamb, for they are without fault before the throne of God.
You quoted Jeremiah 11:v.16 that refers to "A green olive tree"
and discerned not in the same verse that its branches were broken. Why? Verse 17 explains
the why: -The Lord of hosts, that planted thee, pronounced evil against thee, for the evil of
the house of Israel and of the house of Judah, which they have done against themselves to
provoke me to anger in offering incense unto Baal.
You quoted Zachariah 4:11- Then answered I, and said unto him, What are these two olive
trees upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof?
Didn't you see? In the time of Zechariah there was only and only one candlestick, and two olive
trees, (one candlestick has nothing to do with Israel and Judah, now in the current time there
are two candlesticks, and refers to two aproved Churches of the Lord-one Gentile and one Jewish,
and the two OLIVE TREES are a source of Oil for the two candlesticks standing before the God of
the earth. Revelation 11:v.4.
We can say the two Olive Trees gave rise to the Old Testament-the Torah-and to the New Testament.
The Bible is a product originating from two Olive Trees written in two parts, in two different periods,
God uses the OLD and NEW TESTAMENTS as His powerful witnesses within the two candlesticks.
Remember: The WORD is GOD. Yeah, the Word is GOD.
You can spin this any way you like, but the two witnesses are the 144K sealed saints from the whole house of Israel.
This is the very reason I stopped discussing the Bible end-times with anyone. It turns into confusion of tongues, where each man has his prideful version of the dream, backed by vague scripture. Someone stuck in his ways, so as not to hear when it knocks, loses, he doubly loses professing the wrong doctrine. I've learned a few great things here because I listened to the Word, and realized that the word I had was faulty.
Richard Estrada
Yes, I understand, I have heard several theories on two witness, one different from
the other among them, which do not match the revelation of the Word of God, for me
your theory is more one, the newer. Presumptions and conjectures, and imaginations,
speculations, opinions, based in the letter of Scriptures, they mean nothing but severe
punishments-Rev.22:v.18-20. Let's be careful. He that has an ear, let him hear what
the Spirit sais unto the churches.
The seven candlesticks are the seven Churches of the first century, mentioned in Revelation
chapters 2and3; By analogy, the two candlesticks - Revelation 11:v.4 - are the two churches
of this time of Apocalipse, times of the end. He that has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit
sais unto the Churches.
For me what prevails is the Word of GOD. The Word is GOD, understand? For there are three
that bear record in Heaven(Heaven? Ephesians 1:v.3), the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit
(who is not a ghost as is writtten in English language,but a person-the Comforter-John16:7-15):
and these three are One.
The source of all things is GOD, the Father, the Word is GOD, and He Himself planted the two
olive trees here for the purpose of supplying mainly in this current time the two candlesticks,
i.e. the last two churches, actually his people as a whole, with the anointing oil, as said John
the Apostle-2:20-21: -20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.
21 I have not written unto you because ye know not the Truth, but because ye know it, and
that no lie is of the Truth.
The express Word of God implicit in two Covenants-the Old and New Testaments- both are
the Tree of Life that GOD planted here by Word, and to him that overcomes He will give to
eat of the tree of life, there is a manna and it is hidden. He that overcomes, and keeps my
works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations.
Amen.
What did you expect? The match you are searching for is rarely found. It reminds me of when I was a youngster, and trying to make sense of so many strange Biblical theories. I can tell you that spiritual liberty is found within you; you are all you need, and that's everything. You are best reading, studying, and keeping to yourself. Never in your life tell a soul what you know is the truth.
Please explain why the two witnesses are not sealed, neither in Revelation 7 What will they do for 42 months?
Please explain why the 144K are sealed? What will they do for 42 months?
You said only the two witnesses die in the street, and not the 144K?
Then why are the 144K standing in front of the throne, resurrected?
( Revelation 14:1-4)
1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Zion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.
2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:
3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.
AND AGAIN IN REVELATION 7 we see the 144K getting sealed, and immediately afterwards the same 144K are seen in WHITE ROBES in heaven, after being redeemed from the great tribulation in vs 13-14.
13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
The two witness and 144K are one in the same. The two witnesses are SYMBOLIC of themselves.
God's book fooled you. Allow the Bible to define itself, not some copy n' paste internet article. I strongly believe that you owe me an apology for explaining away this issue as if my assertion was ill-conceived.
Richard Estrada
You are wrong. What prevails is the Word of God.
Chapter 7 reveals the number of FAITHFUL Israelites who will be saved, in fact they are the prophetic remnant of the 12 tribes of Israel, they will be saved from imminent dangers. As it is written, all Jews who do not have the seal of GOD on their foreheads will be grievously tormented, and their torment will be like the torment of the scorpion when it hurts man.
Furthermore, GOD will punish severily the unfaithful Jews, God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: believe in him whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, and with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the Truth, that they might be saved, so they all might be damned who believed not the truth - BELIEVED NOT IN JESUS -, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
Yeah, except the sealed and faithful 144K, everyone else will believe in the esoteric, and kabbalistic, and spiritist messiah, a false messiah, Who will oppose and exalt himself above all that is called GOD, or that is worshipped; so that he as God will sit in the temple of GOD, shewing himself that he is God.
The prophetic message of JESUS will fulfil LITERALLY. As JESUS said: John 5:v.43-47:
43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if ANOTHER shall come in his own name (AN IMPOSTOR, A FALSE MESSIAH, A DECEIVER MESSIAH), him ye will receive.
Matthew 23:v. 31-35
33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.
32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city,that
You didn't answer my questions. You said I was "wrong" about the 2 witnesses, but not why. You had to Google it, I recognized the script you copied. Therefore, I will answer the questions for you:
The 144K are the church, they are Christ's bride. The 2 witnesses, the two candlesticks & two olive trees, the woman from Revelation 12, are all symbolism, metaphors, and allegory describing the 144K. The 2 witnesses and the 144K have the same mission, within the same time frame. You still can't make the connection?
( Psalms 52:8) But I am like a green olive tree in the house of God: I trust in the mercy of God for ever and ever.
A single nation was an olive tree. A nation divided became two olive trees, two houses, two witnesses.
Below are 5 scripture depictions of the 144K on route to or in heaven. After being called up to heaven, the firstfruits are gathered for their judgment. The 144K "witnesses" are judged and resurrected in the twinkling of an eye. Look how the Rev 7 & Rev 11 stories parallel each other.
( Revelation 11:12) And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.
( Revelation 7:9) After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
( Revelation 7:14)...These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
Revelation 14:1-4
Revelation 20:4
Can it get any clearer? The 2 witnesses die, and no sooner do they appear in heaven as the coveted 144K. I have no idea where you stand, but, If you're going to dismiss my interpretation, the burden is on you to back it up with facts. Can you post your own ideas about the 2 witnesses for me to review?
No,not Google script,you lie.My point is the Holy Scriptures,not your conjectures and false interpretations of the Word of GOD as posted.I have nothing to do with your counterfeit of the Word of GOD,much less to have to comment on your devilish lies.
To let readers know,here's quoted part of my post you replyed:
Richard You are wrong.Rev.7 reveals the number of FAITHFUL Israelites who will be saved,they are the prophetic remnant of the 12 tribes of Israel,they will be saved from imminent dangers.As it is written in the Word of GOD,all Jews who do not have the seal of GOD on their foreheads will be grievously tormented,and their torment will be like the torment of the scorpion when it hurts man.
Furthermore,GOD will punish severely the unfaithful Jews, God will send them strong delusion that they should believe a lie:believe in him whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, and with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish-2Ts.2-because they received not the love of the Truth,that they might be saved,so they all might be damned who believed not the truth-BELIEVED NOT IN JESUS-but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
Yeah, except the sealed and faithful 144K,everyone else will believe in the esoteric,and kabbalistic,and spiritist messiah,a false messiah,"Who will oppose and exalt himself above all that is called GOD,or that is worshipped;so that he as God will sit in the temple of GOD, shewing himself that he is God"-2Ts.2.
The prophetic message of JESUS will fulfil LITERALLY. John 5:43-47:
43 I am come in my Father's name,and ye receive me not: if ANOTHER shall come in his own name(AN IMPOSTOR,A FALSE MESSIAH,A DECEIVER MESSIAH),him ye will receive.
Mat.23:31-35
33
Ye serpents,ye generation of vipers,how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
I can't believe your behavior. You are a bully. I read through the thread, who are you to say what's right when you don't know yourself. Shameful.
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