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  • Joyce on John 1 - 3 years ago
    Do people really believe baptism gets them into heaven?
  • Adam - In Reply on John 1 - 3 years ago
    Hi Joyce,

    Your question was if some people believe that. You probably already know the answer is yes. But maybe your real question is it a requirement to be baptized to enter heaven? If that is your question I have a response.

    My main question is why wouldn't you want to be baptized? What's the real reason for wanting to disobey Jesus? If someone is looking to only do the bare minimum in order to "make it to heaven", one might wonder if that person is a real Christian. God wants all of us- to love the Lord with all our heart, all our mind, all our strength. If someone is mostly interested in following the world, but wants to just cut corners and do whatever they assume is the bare minimum, I personally would not feel much assurance of salvation. Jesus clearly said to be baptized, so if someone disregards Jesus's words, it seems like slapping him in his face, as that person thinks they know better than Jesus.

    Here's the verse where Jesus says to be baptized: Mark 16:16

    Acts 2:38 clearly says to be baptized also. If it wasn't important, they wouldn't have said to do it, but they did say to do it. So, aside from a physical disability, if someone doesn't want to do it for whatever reason, is following Jesus very important to them? It reveals someone's priorities. Matthew 6:21 - All will be judged fairly and I think some will be surprised on judgment day: Matthew 10:33. God bless...
  • Jade - In Reply on John 1 - 3 years ago
    Some people believe that but, if your are not doing the will of God the baptism never meant anything to you, because when your getting baptised your willing to change your life for the better.
  • Mishael - In Reply on John 1 - 3 years ago
    What is in John 3 is what Jesus told Nicodemus: you must be born again.

    Receive the Holy Spirit.

    There's a link on the red page that says: Become A Christian, that is useful to understand the whole process
  • Johnny A eudy - In Reply on John 1 - 3 years ago
    Baptism by water does not get you to heaven. Jesus Christ himself was baptised, But he was and still is the son of God.

    Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. This means that you Believe and confess that you believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and that Jesus died on the cross, shed his own blood for the forgiveness of our sins, always and forever.

    While hanging on the cross, Jesus said "It it finished". He was saying this has been done for you. so that you may have eternal life with the Father, Son and Holy Spirit in Heaven. Water doesnt save, but Jesus blood has and did.

    thanks and God bless.
  • Why Be Baptised - In Reply - 3 years ago
    To be saved, we must believe that Jesus is Lord and believe that He died for our sins. This confession acknowledges before God that we are unable to attain righteousness on our own and that we accept His plan for our lives.

    "...Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved..." Acts 16:31

    "Yet to all who receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God." John 1:12

    "Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." Acts 2:38

    "I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance" Luke 5:32

    "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness." 1 John 1:9

    There's a link on the red page: "Become A Christian", that explains the whole process.

    For me: Jesus submitted to be baptized in water by John the Baptist. He was fulfilling a prophesy.

    Baptism is simply us following Jesus as his disciple in a simple act of obedience.

    It never occurred to me to dispute water baptism. It truly was desiring to leave my old life and rise up in the new life.
  • Lex - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Honestly it is written in Scripture so that means to do so is obedience. In terms of salvation, why argue to not do something the Christ did or any of the apostles? There is not reason to argue obedience and there is scripture that says believers are not supposed to quarrel and uphold sound doctrine.
  • Paul - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Joyce,

    You know what gets you into heaven?

    Saying a prayer every Wednesday at 4 PM when the church bells ring.
  • Sam - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Mishael,

    To be born again means to be resurrected into perfection.

    It doesn't mean someone who found God and puts away sin. "Saved" maybe, cognizant of your shortcomings, but not born again.

    Show me someone who says they're born again, and I'll show you someone who's been mislead.
  • Lex - In Reply - 3 years ago
    What do you mean?
  • Sam - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Lex,

    This is why Nicodemus couldn't understand what Jesus meant about being "born again". Spiritually.

    Jesus himself was the example, where by 3 days after his death, he was resurrected into ever lasting life. Born again.



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