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The last seven years of the current Devil's world according the Word of GOD
Revelation 1
1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ,
which God gave unto him,
to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass;
and he sent and signified it by his angel
unto his servant John:
Revelation 11:v.1-2
1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying,
Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.
2 But the COURT which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not;
for it is given unto the GENTILES:
and the holy city-JERUSALEM-shall they tread under foot forty and two months.(HALF OF WEEK-1.260 days)
Revelation 13:v.1 and 5 and 2
1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a (MAN) Beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon HIS horns ten crowns, and upon HIS heads the name of blasphemy. (What's name?)
5 And there was given unto him(unto the MAN Beast of sea)a MOUTH speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.(IN FULFILMENT OF REV. 11:v.2-HALF OF WEEK)
2 ... and the Dragon gave him(to the MAN Beast of sea) his Power, and his Seat(his Throne), and great Authority.(According this verse the MAN Beast of sea will sit on the Throne of the MAN Dragon-Rev.13:v.11 in the Holy City
which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt,where also our Lord was crucified).
That said, there will be TWO powerful MAN Beasts in near future exactly in the beginning of the first half of the last seven years of the Devil's world, or 1.260 days.(I'm sure this terrible and satanic event will happen in this current decade-2020-2030), thus, as soon as the first half of the last seven years of the Devil's world ends, the worst of all events will happen after the death of JESUS on the cross, which is the beginning of the establishment of the Abomination of Desolation in the second half. Daniel 12:v.11-12 + Matt.24:15
Please, I do not want to cause or start a debate because similar has been taught for many years, this is just to point out a few things you may look at in your study.
The seven years come from Daniel 9:27, if that prophecy has been fulfilled what does that change?
In Revelation 12:17 the original text, the dragon (Satan) is standing on the sands of the sea after he is cast down permanently to earth with no more access to heaven. Revelation 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. Does that change the scene? Peaceful it will not be.
In Revelation mainly there are Satan, the beast, and a false prophet. From long ago there were angels that left their estate and were locked in chains of darkness in the bottomless pit. We are told in ( Revelation 9:11) the king of the bottomless pit is in Hebrew Abaddon, in Greek Apollyon both meaning destruction the same meaning as perdition like son of.
In Revelation the beast comes from the bottomless pit, ( Revelation 11:7) ( Revelation 17:8) With this in mind, do these verses imply this beast being a man?
The word sea can symbolize peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues, it can also refer to the Mediterranean Sea, also the abyss, and the bottomless pit.
I hope you take this well, it is just something you may look at in your studies. If you still feel confident in your interpretation that's ok. There are things we will not know until they happen and as long as we are watching, we are ready, our faith is strong, we walk in the Spirit of truth, we stand for Jesus, and we are prepared for what we may have to face, even if it is death.
Although some things you commented, according to your theory, are doubtful and need of confirmation, remember that Revelation 12:v.17, and 12:v.12, and 9:11, and 11:7, and 17:8, that you mentioned in your post, all them are linked to what our Lord JESUS said in Revelation 1:v.1:
1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ,
which God gave unto Him,
to shew unto His servants things which must shortly COME to PASS;(future exclusively)
ABOUT ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION IN THE LAST SEVEN YEARS OF THIS CURRENT DEVIL'S WORLD
Daniel 12:v. 11-12, and Matthew 23:v.15 and 21-22, and Revelation 1:v.1
11 And from the time that...the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. (there will be a gap of 30 days after the end of the second half of these last seven years of the Devil's word)
12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days. ( Here a gap of 75 days after the end of the Abomination of Desolation, in fact A MYSTERIOUS DAY 1.335. The KINGDOM of GOD is established- Rev.11:15-18 - Aleluia! )
Matthew 24:15 and 21-22 - JESUS WARNED -
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
21 For then shall be Great Tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And EXCEPT these days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
Revelation 1:v.1
1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto Him, to shew unto His servants things which must shortly come to pass; and He sent and signified it by His angel unto His servant John:
Actually, the last week of this Devil's world is implicit or included in this last decade of the Devil's world.
There is ONLY 3.5 years between the sixth & seventh trumpets.
From the time antichrist is revealed, to the time Christ defeats him is 3.5 years.
You are missing 3.5 years of the last week, and you're missing a big fact about the duration of the prophesy. You will never account for a 7 year great tribulation from Bible accounts without fabricating the time line. It is not counted in consecutive time frames. How much of a simpleton does God have to be that he would explicitly reveal the mystery, that He would write in Isaiah: "America is Mystery Babylon" so the feeble minded faithless are satisfied, like they saw it on TV.
I can't wait to see what God has in store for America' exceptional; a furbished surprise that glitters. Balmy outside. God will hide the answers from individuals until their time comes.
You said: (quote) - "How much of a simpleton does God have to be that he would explicitly reveal the mystery, that He would write in Isaiah: "America is Mystery Babylon" so the feeble minded faithless are satisfied, like they saw it on TV.
I am not American, and I must say that you are wrong. What you said above is FAKE. Isaiah do not refers to America absolutely. Isaiah prophesized, saying:
- The burden of Babylon, which Isaiah the son of Amoz did see.
- Every one that is found shall be thrust through; and every one that is joined unto them shall fall by the Sword.
- Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished.
- Behold, I will stir up the MEDES AGAINST THEM, which shall not regard silver; and as for gold, they shall not delight in it.
- Their bows also shall dash the young men to pieces; and they shall have no pity on the fruit of the womb; their eyes shall not spare children.
- And BABYLON, the GLORY OF KINGDOMS, the BEAUTY of the CHALDEES' EXCELLENCY, shall be as when GOD overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah.
Be careful with the Word of GOD, or get ready
Again: I am not American, but what you wrote obout the prophecy of Isaiah - the Word of GOD - yeah, what you wrote is FAKE, it's tares.
No, Juan Diaz, I did not miss "3.5 years of the last week, and you're missing a big fact about the duration of the prophesy" as you said. I closed my post saying as I quoted below:
... there will be TWO powerful MAN Beasts in near future exactly in the beginning of the FIRST half of the last seven years of the Devil's world, or 1.260 days.
And I commented: (I'm sure this terrible and satanic EVENT will happen in this current decade-2020-2030, thus, as soon as the FIRST HALF of the last seven years of the Devil's world ENDS, the WORST OF ALL EVENTS WILL HAPPEN after the death of JESUS on the cross, WHICH IS THE BEGINNING of the establishment OF THE ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION IN THE SECOND HALF. 12:v.11-12 + Matt.24:15
Maybe you did not read Daniel 12:11-12 and Matthew 24:v.15 which confirm what I wrote. The Word is GOD.
"... there will be TWO powerful MAN Beasts in near future exactly in the beginning of the FIRST half of the last seven years of the Devil's world, or 1.260 days.
And I commented: (I'm sure this terrible and satanic EVENT will happen in this current decade-2020-2030, thus, as soon as the FIRST HALF of the last seven years of the Devil's world ENDS, the WORST OF ALL EVENTS WILL HAPPEN after the death of JESUS on the cross, WHICH IS THE BEGINNING of the establishment OF THE ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION IN THE SECOND HALF. 12:v.11-12 + Matt.24:15"
Come on, are you that gullible to believe America is mentioned in the Bible? I made that up. I was making my point on how conditioned people are, if it's on TV they will believe it, and you helped make my point. God's not giving secrets, or shortcuts away, that was my message.
Now, kindly and carefully explain Revelation 13 where as you say, one beast comes before the other, and in two consecutive, 3.5 year segments.
I'm afraid you have misappropriated the last week, and sadly, you will never change your belief system no matter the truths presented to you. I have no idea what where you get 7 years from unless you factor in the 3.5 years of Jesus' ministry. However, that's not what you're saying, and what you're saying isn't square.
These two beasts are the antichrist & False prophet who work together for 3.5 years.
At Christ's return, they're both put in the lake of fire, and shortly after, joined by the devil.
Forget about posting scripture, just explain the 7 years to me in plain English; tell me the story.
Please, dear John, you are implying that I believed your misleading message which is not true.
Here's what I told for you two times in my answer to you around 12-13 hours ago:--> I am not American, and I must say that you are wrong. What you said above is FAKE. ISAIAH DO NOT REFERS TO AMERICA ABSOLUTELY. Again: I am not American, but what you wrote about the prophecy of ISAIAH - the Word of GOD - yeah, what you wrote is FAKE, it's TARES.
You are not being fair in saying that I am gullible in believing your message. No, I'm not, I didn't believe you, by the way, I proved whether the spirit was from God or not; I discerned the spirit of the lie, even a disguised spirit in your message.
About Revelation 13 - two Beasts - I will comment separately in another post you posted later or after this one.
What matters is the Truth. GOD is the Truth. The Word is GOD, understand?
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Revelation 1
1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ,
which God gave unto him,
to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass;
and he sent and signified it by his angel
unto his servant John:
Revelation 11:v.1-2
1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying,
Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.
2 But the COURT which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not;
for it is given unto the GENTILES:
and the holy city-JERUSALEM-shall they tread under foot forty and two months.(HALF OF WEEK-1.260 days)
Revelation 13:v.1 and 5 and 2
1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a (MAN) Beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon HIS horns ten crowns, and upon HIS heads the name of blasphemy. (What's name?)
5 And there was given unto him(unto the MAN Beast of sea)a MOUTH speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.(IN FULFILMENT OF REV. 11:v.2-HALF OF WEEK)
2 ... and the Dragon gave him(to the MAN Beast of sea) his Power, and his Seat(his Throne), and great Authority.(According this verse the MAN Beast of sea will sit on the Throne of the MAN Dragon-Rev.13:v.11 in the Holy City
which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt,where also our Lord was crucified).
That said, there will be TWO powerful MAN Beasts in near future exactly in the beginning of the first half of the last seven years of the Devil's world, or 1.260 days.(I'm sure this terrible and satanic event will happen in this current decade-2020-2030), thus, as soon as the first half of the last seven years of the Devil's world ends, the worst of all events will happen after the death of JESUS on the cross, which is the beginning of the establishment of the Abomination of Desolation in the second half. Daniel 12:v.11-12 + Matt.24:15
Please, I do not want to cause or start a debate because similar has been taught for many years, this is just to point out a few things you may look at in your study.
The seven years come from Daniel 9:27, if that prophecy has been fulfilled what does that change?
In Revelation 12:17 the original text, the dragon (Satan) is standing on the sands of the sea after he is cast down permanently to earth with no more access to heaven. Revelation 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. Does that change the scene? Peaceful it will not be.
In Revelation mainly there are Satan, the beast, and a false prophet. From long ago there were angels that left their estate and were locked in chains of darkness in the bottomless pit. We are told in ( Revelation 9:11) the king of the bottomless pit is in Hebrew Abaddon, in Greek Apollyon both meaning destruction the same meaning as perdition like son of.
In Revelation the beast comes from the bottomless pit, ( Revelation 11:7) ( Revelation 17:8) With this in mind, do these verses imply this beast being a man?
The word sea can symbolize peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues, it can also refer to the Mediterranean Sea, also the abyss, and the bottomless pit.
I hope you take this well, it is just something you may look at in your studies. If you still feel confident in your interpretation that's ok. There are things we will not know until they happen and as long as we are watching, we are ready, our faith is strong, we walk in the Spirit of truth, we stand for Jesus, and we are prepared for what we may have to face, even if it is death.
God bless,
RLW
Greetings in Christ JESUS,
Thank you for your reply
OK, no debate, but the Truth matters.
Although some things you commented, according to your theory, are doubtful and need of confirmation, remember that Revelation 12:v.17, and 12:v.12, and 9:11, and 11:7, and 17:8, that you mentioned in your post, all them are linked to what our Lord JESUS said in Revelation 1:v.1:
1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ,
which God gave unto Him,
to shew unto His servants things which must shortly COME to PASS;(future exclusively)
and He sent and signified it by His angel
unto His servant John:
Daniel 12:v. 11-12, and Matthew 23:v.15 and 21-22, and Revelation 1:v.1
11 And from the time that...the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. (there will be a gap of 30 days after the end of the second half of these last seven years of the Devil's word)
12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days. ( Here a gap of 75 days after the end of the Abomination of Desolation, in fact A MYSTERIOUS DAY 1.335. The KINGDOM of GOD is established- Rev.11:15-18 - Aleluia! )
Matthew 24:15 and 21-22 - JESUS WARNED -
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
21 For then shall be Great Tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And EXCEPT these days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
Revelation 1:v.1
1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto Him, to shew unto His servants things which must shortly come to pass; and He sent and signified it by His angel unto His servant John:
Actually, the last week of this Devil's world is implicit or included in this last decade of the Devil's world.
GET READY
From the time antichrist is revealed, to the time Christ defeats him is 3.5 years.
You are missing 3.5 years of the last week, and you're missing a big fact about the duration of the prophesy. You will never account for a 7 year great tribulation from Bible accounts without fabricating the time line. It is not counted in consecutive time frames. How much of a simpleton does God have to be that he would explicitly reveal the mystery, that He would write in Isaiah: "America is Mystery Babylon" so the feeble minded faithless are satisfied, like they saw it on TV.
I can't wait to see what God has in store for America' exceptional; a furbished surprise that glitters. Balmy outside. God will hide the answers from individuals until their time comes.
You said: (quote) - "How much of a simpleton does God have to be that he would explicitly reveal the mystery, that He would write in Isaiah: "America is Mystery Babylon" so the feeble minded faithless are satisfied, like they saw it on TV.
I am not American, and I must say that you are wrong. What you said above is FAKE. Isaiah do not refers to America absolutely. Isaiah prophesized, saying:
- The burden of Babylon, which Isaiah the son of Amoz did see.
- Every one that is found shall be thrust through; and every one that is joined unto them shall fall by the Sword.
- Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished.
- Behold, I will stir up the MEDES AGAINST THEM, which shall not regard silver; and as for gold, they shall not delight in it.
- Their bows also shall dash the young men to pieces; and they shall have no pity on the fruit of the womb; their eyes shall not spare children.
- And BABYLON, the GLORY OF KINGDOMS, the BEAUTY of the CHALDEES' EXCELLENCY, shall be as when GOD overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah.
Be careful with the Word of GOD, or get ready
Again: I am not American, but what you wrote obout the prophecy of Isaiah - the Word of GOD - yeah, what you wrote is FAKE, it's tares.
Greetings in Christ JESUS,
No, Juan Diaz, I did not miss "3.5 years of the last week, and you're missing a big fact about the duration of the prophesy" as you said. I closed my post saying as I quoted below:
... there will be TWO powerful MAN Beasts in near future exactly in the beginning of the FIRST half of the last seven years of the Devil's world, or 1.260 days.
And I commented: (I'm sure this terrible and satanic EVENT will happen in this current decade-2020-2030, thus, as soon as the FIRST HALF of the last seven years of the Devil's world ENDS, the WORST OF ALL EVENTS WILL HAPPEN after the death of JESUS on the cross, WHICH IS THE BEGINNING of the establishment OF THE ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION IN THE SECOND HALF. 12:v.11-12 + Matt.24:15
Maybe you did not read Daniel 12:11-12 and Matthew 24:v.15 which confirm what I wrote. The Word is GOD.
What in God's name are you talking about?
"... there will be TWO powerful MAN Beasts in near future exactly in the beginning of the FIRST half of the last seven years of the Devil's world, or 1.260 days.
And I commented: (I'm sure this terrible and satanic EVENT will happen in this current decade-2020-2030, thus, as soon as the FIRST HALF of the last seven years of the Devil's world ENDS, the WORST OF ALL EVENTS WILL HAPPEN after the death of JESUS on the cross, WHICH IS THE BEGINNING of the establishment OF THE ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION IN THE SECOND HALF. 12:v.11-12 + Matt.24:15"
............................................................................
OK, in the 1st half of the week, you have 2 "man beasts" lasting 3.5 years (are these the sealed witnesses?)
Then in the 2nd half of the week, begins with TAOD, what happens here?
Explain this step by step, every aspect of your 7 year tribulation period.
You make my head hurt.
Come on, are you that gullible to believe America is mentioned in the Bible? I made that up. I was making my point on how conditioned people are, if it's on TV they will believe it, and you helped make my point. God's not giving secrets, or shortcuts away, that was my message.
Now, kindly and carefully explain Revelation 13 where as you say, one beast comes before the other, and in two consecutive, 3.5 year segments.
I'm afraid you have misappropriated the last week, and sadly, you will never change your belief system no matter the truths presented to you. I have no idea what where you get 7 years from unless you factor in the 3.5 years of Jesus' ministry. However, that's not what you're saying, and what you're saying isn't square.
These two beasts are the antichrist & False prophet who work together for 3.5 years.
At Christ's return, they're both put in the lake of fire, and shortly after, joined by the devil.
Forget about posting scripture, just explain the 7 years to me in plain English; tell me the story.
Greetings in Christ JESUS,
Please, dear John, you are implying that I believed your misleading message which is not true.
Here's what I told for you two times in my answer to you around 12-13 hours ago:--> I am not American, and I must say that you are wrong. What you said above is FAKE. ISAIAH DO NOT REFERS TO AMERICA ABSOLUTELY. Again: I am not American, but what you wrote about the prophecy of ISAIAH - the Word of GOD - yeah, what you wrote is FAKE, it's TARES.
You are not being fair in saying that I am gullible in believing your message. No, I'm not, I didn't believe you, by the way, I proved whether the spirit was from God or not; I discerned the spirit of the lie, even a disguised spirit in your message.
About Revelation 13 - two Beasts - I will comment separately in another post you posted later or after this one.
What matters is the Truth. GOD is the Truth. The Word is GOD, understand?
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