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BIBLE DISCUSSION THREAD 161889

Bible Discussion Thread

 
  • OSEAS - 3 years ago
    JUAN DIAZ

    Yes. There will be two Beasts as soon the last week of Daniel 9:v.27 starts. Both Beasts will work together-(1)The Beast of sea-a Gentile Beast;and (2)"ANOTHER Beast will come up out of the earth(Israel);and he has two horns like a lamb, and he speaks as a Dragon

    (1)BEAST OF SEA

    Rev.13:v.1-And I stood upon the sand of the sea (sea means waters. Waters mean peoples, and nations, and multitudes of all tongues-Gentile peoples), and saw a Beast rise up out of the sea,having seven heads (7 heads are 7 mountains, and 7 kings),and ten horns (10 horns are 10 kings), and upon his (10) horns ten crowns (because are 10 kings) , and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. What's name of blaspheme? Well, this Man Beast, is a religious and satanic MONSTER who has 7 heads in this current time,the 10 kings are not linked to him yet, and this powerful religious and satanic MONSTER manifests himself as a Christian, even as Vicarius Filii Dei, actually a false Christian.

    The 7 heads of the Beast are 7 hills or 7 mountains that Christians imagine Scriptures refer to the 7 hills of Rome. In anyway, the woman which rides upon the Beast of sea-the RCC- is materially sat upon many peoples, and multitudes, and nations and tongues, and all them are spread by 7 regions of the Earth, i.e.in Europe,and Asia, Africa,Oceania(Australia), and North America,Central America, and South America, but spiritually they are guided and ruled by the Beast of sea, whose headquarter is Vatican City built on the 7 hills of Rome.

    About 10 kings they will be linked to that Beast of sea when the MAN Beast of earth(2) gives to him his Throne in Jerusalem, and Power, and great Authority to him.

    (2)The Beast of earth(Israel) like a lamb,a false lamb,an esoteric, and kabbalistic, and spiritist Beast,future guide and ruler of Judaism,he will manifest himself as messiah,a man understood in Torah,a false prophet of the Jews-2 Th.2

    Each one will rule Antichrist's kingdom by 3,5 years for each one
  • Juan Diaz - In Reply - 3 years ago
    OSEAS,

    I apologize for misstating, but you should have noticed it was an exaggerated example I was providing. I have heard many times people say the US isn't in the Bible, so it can't be Mystery Babylon.

    Thanks for outlining your end-time vision. You repeated and placed a lot of scripture, and structurally, I can't follow what you are saying. It's too jammed up and generic: you could have written that 1,000 years ago. Name names.

    Since we are as you say, a few years away from conflict, can you identify every nation involved in your vision? Who's on what side, beast/Babylon armies? You also have 2 antichrist's serving 3 year terms each?

    This is a radical departure from my end-time concept. How many people are you aware of that subscribe to this end-time theology? Can you please answer my questions?
  • OSEAS - In Reply - 3 years ago
    JUAN DIAZ

    D continuation of previous post

    Satan CORRUPTED the CHURCH OF ROME completely-the Antichrist developed itself-John Apostle denounced Satan's strategy- 1John 2:18-21.Paul Apostle,among others, was murdered.Around year 95 AD, after 65 years of JESUS's ascention,John Apostle had been exiled to the isle of Patmos.JESUS was worried with the 7 Churches of Asia that Satan tried to corrupt, for the Church of Rome was corrupted and fell in the hands of Satan.The Church of the LORD in Rome would be the eighth Church if it had not in the hands of Satan completely.Definitely or permanently, the Church of the Lord in Rome after being corrupted by the Devil became the cradle of Antichrist spiritually speaking- 1John 2:v.18-21.Two thousand years has passed, Satan perpetuated its religious power creating an universal and powerful religious and satanic system, a religious MONSTER with 7 heads, and 10 horns, and a name of blasphemy, the nations, with some exceptions, and their respective rulers are dominated or have connections with this satanic religious MONSTER.To perpetuate this satanic dominion Satan created the Papacy in the year 67 AD-Pope Linus- after had corrupted the former Church of the Lord in Rome, and the Church was named Catholic Church, later Roman Catholic Church.Since the beginning of this corrupted "Christian" church were elected 266 Popes and upon them the RCC rides until this current time-and this satanic religious system is called as The Beast of sea-which rules and guides the nations spiritually.Sea is waters, waters are peoples, and nations, and multitudes of all tongues,dominated by the Beast of sea.The Papacy and the Great Whore-the Roman Catholic Church-will be wounded to death from now on, day after day. Pope Francis must died soon and will be elected the last Pope, this elected last Pope will ruled the 1st half of the week 70th- Daniel 9:v.27. Rev.13:5-To happen this, must manifest first the Beast of earth,then there will be two Beast in the Earth.
  • OSEAS - In Reply - 3 years ago
    JUAN DIAZ

    Be in peace, you are welcome brother in Christ. See, my reply was according my zeal by the Word of GOD, as you know , the Word is GOD. Who loves the Word, loves GOD.

    Yes, I surely repeat and place a lot of Scripture because it gives support of my end-time vision, I have not any other source except the Word of GOD to interpret the Word of GOD. Scriptures explain Scriptures.

    Dear Juan Diaz, GOD is the Truth, so what matters is Truth, and the Truth is only one. We are speaking of revelations of Apocalypses' times, not speculations, or suppositions, or conjectures, or opinions, or imaginations. That said, I take the Bible, and read Rev. 13:v.1-10-THE BEAST OF SEA. HIS ANCIENT ROOTS: v.2- he is like unto a leopard(3)-Greece, and his feet were as the feet of a bear(2)-Medo-Persian, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion(1)-Babylon: These three peoples were swallowed by the Roman Empire- Daniel 7:v.2-7, and for this 4th kingdom there is not any animal because it is dreadful, strong exceedingly; and diverse from all the beasts before it; and it had ten horns. It was exactly in the dominion of the terrible 4th kingdom that GOD sent JESUS to preach the Gospel of GOD's kingdom, and after around 3 years of preachings JESUS was crucified by his own people. Antichrist was in the embryo yet.The powerful apostles of the LORD even in the absense of JESUS continued with great power the work that JESUS had started. Churches were developed in the world, Paul apostle worked hard, he ministered several churches, the church of Rome was one of them.

    The Roman Empire was being shakened by the preaching of the Gospel of JESUS and it troubled the Roman Empire,dominated by the Devil.So Satan worked in the corruption of the Churches of the Lord, the Apostles did fight against Satan. Satan CORRUPTED the CHURCH OF ROME by entire-the Antichrist developed itself-John Apostle denounced Satan's strategy- 1John 2:v.18-21

    continues in next post on Beast of sea--lack of space to write
  • OSEAS - In Reply - 3 years ago
    continuation of previous post



    Satan CORRUPTED the CHURCH OF ROME completely-the Antichrist developed itself-John Apostle denounced Satan's strategy- 1John 2:18-21.Paul Apostle, among others, was murdered.Around year 95 AD, after 65 years of JESUS's ascention,John Apostle had been exiled to the isle of Patmos.JESUS was worried with the 7 Churches of Asia that Satan tried to corrupt, for the Church of Rome was corrupted and fell in the hands of Satan.The Church of the LORD in Rome would be the eighth Church if it had not in the hands of Satan completely.Definitely or permanently, the Church of the Lord in Rome after being corrupted by the Devil became the cradle of Antichrist spiritually speaking- 1John 2:v.18-21.Two thousand years has passed, Satan perpetuated its religious power creating an universal and powerful religious and satanic system, a religious MONSTER with 7 heads, and 10 horns, and a name of blasphemy, the nations, with some exceptions, and their respective rulers are dominated or have connections with this satanic religious MONSTER.To perpetuate this satanic dominion Satan created the Papacy in the year 67 AD-Pope Linus- after had corrupted the former Church of the Lord in Rome, and the Church was named Catholic Church, later Roman Catholic Church.Since the beginning of this corrupted "Christian" church were elected 266 Popes and upon them the RCC rides until this current time-and this satanic religious system is called as The Beast of sea-which rules and guides the nations spiritually.Sea is waters, waters are peoples, and nations, and multitudes of all tongues, dominated by the Beast of sea.The Papacy and the Great Whore-the Roman Catholic Church-will be wounded to death from now on, day after day. Pope Francis must died soon and will be elected the last Pope, this elected last Pope will ruled the 1st half of the week 70th- Daniel 9:v.27. Rev.13:5-To happen this, must manifest first the Beast of earth,then there will be two Beast in the Earth.
  • OSEAS - In Reply - 3 years ago
    JUAN DIAZ

    Be in peace, you are welcome brother in Christ. See, my reply was according my zeal by the Word of GOD, as you know , the Word is GOD. Who loves the Word, loves GOD.

    Yes, I surely repeat and place a lot of Scripture because it gives support of my end-time vision, I have not any other source except the Word of GOD to interpret the Word of GOD. Scriptures explain Scriptures.

    Dear Juan Diaz, GOD is the Truth, so what matters is Truth, and the Truth is only one. We are speaking of revelations of Apocalypses' times, not speculations, or suppositions, or conjectures, or opinions, or imaginations. That said, I take the Bible, and read Rev. 13:v.1-10-THE BEAST OF SEA. HIS ANCIENT ROOTS: v.2- he is like unto a leopard(3)-Greece, and his feet were as the feet of a bear(2)-Medo-Persian, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion(1)-Babylon: These three peoples were swallowed by the Roman Empire- Daniel 7:v.2-7, and for this 4th kingdom there is not any animal because it is dreadful, strong exceedingly; and diverse from all the beasts before it; and it had ten horns. It was exactly in the dominion of the terrible 4th kingdom that GOD sent JESUS to preach the Gospel of GOD's kingdom, and after around 3 years of preachings JESUS was crucified by his own people. Antichrist was in the embryo yet.The powerful apostles of the LORD even in the absense of JESUS continued with great power the work that JESUS had started. Churches were developed in the world, Paul apostle worked hard, he ministered several churches, the church of Rome was one of them.

    The Roman Empire was being shakened by the preaching of the Gospel of JESUS and it troubled the Roman Empire,dominated by the Devil.So Satan worked in the corruption of the Churches of the Lord, the Apostles did fight against Satan. Satan CORRUPTED the CHURCH OF ROME by entire-the Antichrist developed itself-John Apostle denounced Satan's strategy- 1John 2:v.18-21

    continues in next post on Beast of sea--lack of space to write
  • Juan Diaz - In Reply - 3 years ago
    OSEAS, I am having a hard time following, patching together your opinion. It gave me an Excedrin headache. I sort of forget what we were debating.

    I asked you to name the nations of the end-time, and you overpower me with words.

    Who are the nations!!!
  • OSEAS - In Reply - 3 years ago
    JUAN DIAZ

    There will be two Beasts in near future.

    According the Word of GOD, the current Beast of sea has 7 heads, and 10 horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

    Sea means waters, waters are peoples, and nations, and multitudes of all tongues, dominated by the Beast of sea. All the GENTILE nations, with some exceptions, and their respective rulers are dominated or have connections with this satanic religious MONSTER - the Beast of sea.

    Who are the nations!!!

    How do you interpret Revelation 11:v.2? " the COURT which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the GENTILES: and the Holy City -JERUSALEM- shall they tread under foot forty and two months.-1.260 days

    Who are the nations!!!

    Except Israel, all nations are Gentiles. The Holy See currently maintains diplomatic relations with 179 countries. Half of them have a permanent embassy in Rome. the COURT which is without the temple it will be given unto the GENTILES: and the Holy City -JERUSALEM- shall they tread under foot forty and two months.-1.260 days .

    Remember: Revelation 16:v.13-14

    13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

    14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth UNTO THE KINGS OF THE EARTH and of the WHOLE WORLD, to gather them to the battle of that great Day of God Almighty. - THE LORD'S DAY -

    The Lord's Day is the seventh and last Day, or seventh and last millennium . We are already living in the beginning of the first century of the seventh and last millennium, in other words, in the turn of the sixth Day to the seventh.



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