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BIBLE DISCUSSION THREAD 162305

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  • Nicole on Revelation 1 - 3 years ago
    I have a small story and a question that I need help with. My husband and I are currently living with a friend for the time being. I was brought up non denominational Christian and always have had strong faith in our Father God and our perfect savior Jesus. Our friend that we are currently living with is a hard core Satanist, and this bothers me a lot. He always makes fun of me for loving Jesus, and ever since I've been around him I noticed that Satan has been trying to tempt me by getting into my thoughts and trying to make me go down his path. Whenever I pray he tries to break it up by putting his name in place of God's and it's been driving me crazy. Usually he leaves me alone, what can I do to ward him off and leave me in the peace?
  • Jesse - In Reply on Revelation 1 - 3 years ago
    (Part 2)

    Nicole,

    2 Corinthians 6:15 is interesting. It says what concord hath Christ with Belial? We know who Christ is. Without getting too technical, Belial means "good for nothing." So Christ, and "good for nothing," if you put those two together, you don't have a very good mix. The word concord is a Greek word (SUMPHONE) and it's where we get our word symphony from. And it means agreement.

    Jesus said in Matthew chapter 18 that if two or three agree together on earth on anything, I will do it. It's the word SUMPHONE. In other words, God's going to bless two or more that are gathered together who are all "playing the same song." You don't have to be playing the same part, but the same song. You got to be one! And when you are one together in the body of Christ, the ministry of God's Spirit can flow. If you are at odds with each other (your situation described), there will be no ministry there.

    So this means symphony. What music is Christ and Satan going to play together? None! Or what part, and that's literally what it means, what part has he that believes with an infidel? There is no part. They do not fit together.

    Verse 17 says to get out of there. Do not compromise your position in Christ Jesus for the sake of "friendship."
  • Jesse - In Reply on Revelation 1 - 3 years ago
    Nicole,

    The best thing to do would be to get out of there now. I want to share some scripture with you but first off, I am curious to know if your husband is a believer? Also, you mention that this Satanist "friend" makes fun of you for your belief in Christ? Does your husband allow this person to do this? Is he even aware of it?

    Now the scripture I want to share with you is 2 Corinthians 6:14-18. In verse 14, there is a command for the believer. It says "Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers." In other words, stay away from them. Now, let me just mention this to you because it's something that I have found to be very important in the body of Christ, even though people in our society today don't like it.

    God's greatest influence in ministry is to be separated from those involved in sin (your Satanist friend). But it doesn't make any difference who they are, if they are an unbeliever, the bible tells us to not be unequally yoked together with them. I wouldn't even call this person a friend. Verse 14 tells us that we are not to have fellowship with them. The word fellowship means partnership. So we're talking about business deals and anything that has to do with being partners with another person.

    He says what partnership does righteousness have with unrighteousness? It doesn't. It doesn't fit because there are different motives. Secondly, what communion does light have with darkness? That's the word KOINONIA for fellowship. What fellowship can light have with darkness? There is no spiritual fellowship there at all between a believer and a non-believer.

    I am running out of space and will continue this because I believe this is very important and I am truly concerned for your spiritual welfare. I will send the continuation as (Part 2).
  • Nicole - In Reply on Revelation 1 - 3 years ago
    Hello Jesse. Yes, I have read all of those scriptures before, I actually did stop being friends on social media with that Satanist, and even though we live under the same roof my husband and I stay in our room with the door closed. My husband is Christian, but he never seems to get plagued by Satan. We both want to leave and have our own home, but landlords keep ignoring our applications for apartments, and if we weren't here we would be out on the street. I lived with my grandma for many years, and was her caregiver all the way until she passed in 2020. I met my husband in 2017, and he moved in with me in 2018, and married in 2019. My grandma's kids sold the house in April 2021 while we were still living there which left my husband and I to almost be homeless.
  • Olevia - In Reply on Revelation 1 - 3 years ago
    Darling bind that devil in Jesus name. No weapon form against you shall prosper. Please look into housing, there are program in every states that can help you to have a place and a peace of mine. Section 8 and Public Housing.
  • Jesse - In Reply on Revelation 1 - 3 years ago
    Nicole,

    First of all, I am sorry to hear about the passing of your mom and grandmother. You and your husband are in a tough position and my heart goes out to you both. I am not sure what your options are but living out on the street would not be good. If you and your husband are financially able to afford an apartment, have you looked into renting a small house instead, or perhaps a trailer? In many places, the cost of renting a house is comparable to being in an apartment. I don't want to pry into your personal business but perhaps a relative could take you in temporarily until you find a place?

    I am trying to make sense out of why this person would offer up their home to a couple of Christians. I understand the friend thing, but I don't understand a Satanist sharing his home with a couple of believers. That part doesn't make sense to me.

    The Lord works in ways we oftentimes cannot understand. Maybe by you and your husband being where you're at now, this could be His way of bringing conviction into this person's heart. I'm not saying that's the case because I don't know the answer to that.

    Either way, you belong to the Lord. Trust in Him always. Go wherever He leads you.

    Please pray hard for your friend. Pray that the Lord might use you and your husband as a witness of what Christ has done for you and that His will might be done in your circumstances.
  • Nicole - In Reply on Revelation 1 - 3 years ago
    I ran out of room in my last message, but I wish everyone could just follow God and Jesus, and not be tempted.by such a weakling like Satan. I don't understand how he is able to get into people's minds the way he does even though he is chained, and why he would ever think that he could be stronger than God. I can't fathom ever leaving the benefits God provides, he created everything, and a lot of times when I pray I always tell him how wonderful he did with creating this world. Jesus I have no idea how to thank enough because he died for us, and there are so many out there who ignore such a major thing that he did for us.
  • Nicole - In Reply on Revelation 1 - 3 years ago
    Thank you Jesse. No it definitely wouldn't be, especially in Milwaukee, this city isn't the safest anymore. We would love to rent a house, but since I am disabled I have 0 credit, and my husband's credit got messed up because of his mom, it's building back up but slowly. My husband is a chef at a restaurant, and his friend there happens to be an investor, I asked if the three of us would be able to get a place together because it is something his friend has brought up just recently, so my husband is going to talk with him more about it next time he sees him. I wish I had relatives that would takenus in for now, but most of my relatives are greedy and only think about themselves, and his family are the same way.

    I agree, well it was mostly my friend's mom who said okay to us being here, she is a wonderful lady, and I love being around her she is definitely not a dark soul, it's just her son Andii who is. For the most part we Ignore him, there are genuine times where he wants to believe in God and Jesus, because I tell him about a lot of things from the Bible, and he will get very curious and I sometimes feel like I've helped him see the light, but then he gets drunk and goes back to where he was. Sometimes my husband when he gets home from work will walk in, go up to Andii and yell "JESUS LOVES YOU" and Andii will just stay silent or he'll get freaked out lol!

    That is a very super valid point you've made, and it's true. Ir's like the blues Brothers "The Lord works in mysterious ways". I mean after all we are supposed to openly talk about God and Jesus to all and spread the love,

    I really like talking with you Jesse, you are a great man. I will absolutely pray for him, and keep trying to make a breakthrough. Miracles happen, and I've even had the pleasure of God taking my spirit out of my earthly body once to show me heaven. I was a little overwhelmed when I came back but now when I look back on that experience I smile.
  • Adam - In Reply on Revelation 1 - 3 years ago
    Dear Nicole, if I understand right you are a Christian and have voluntarily chosen to live in the residence of satanist, is that correct? If following Christ is important to you then why would you live there? Why wouldn't you leave immediately (now)?

    Sin is so evil, deadly, and destructive to you that Jesus said in Matthew 5:30 its better to cut off your own arm than to let it cause you to sin. In other words do absolutely anything and everything possible to avoid sin (and avoid going to hell). Do you think following Jesus's words are important?

    You have chosen to put yourself in the most vulnerable position one could possibly imagine then are blindly staying there, even though you've already had your faith under attack. If you're not the one influencing the satanist then you can be absolutely assured you are the one being converted and you are the one losing. You're on his turf and seem to be totally unprepared without your 'armor of God' and you put yourselves there in the first place, which is unimagineable. I don't know what you're thinking. Maybe you don't realize what is at stake- our choices have eternal consequences.

    The Bible says many times to depart from evil, stay away from it. You have done the opposite. It's great that you are seeking advice here, but what do you expect someone to say- to live with a satanist?

    Psalm 37:27-29

    Psalm 34:14

    Mark 9:43

    God bless...
  • Nicole - In Reply on Revelation 1 - 3 years ago
    Hello Adam. My husband and I are living here temporarily with the Satanist, because I lived with my grandma and mom all my life, my mom passed in 2013, and my grandma passed in 2020. Her kids sold the house while we were still living there, and we had no where else to go. We are always putting in applications for apartments, but the land lords keep giving the apartments to other people. My Satanist friend offered us a place to live because he didn't want to see us on the street, but we very seldom converse with him. Most of the time my husband and I stay in our bedroom with the door closed.
  • Adam - In Reply on Revelation 1 - 3 years ago
    Hi Nicole, just so you know, I would rather stay outside in a tent anyday than stay under the same roof as a satanist. That's great that you've sought advice, but even though I think you have some concern, to me, I don't think you're taking this very seriously. I don't think you've tried very hard or have exhausted all your possible options. If it were me, I'd move out immediately THEN I'd decide where to go. I'd stay at a motel for the first day, then travel to the nearest relevatives if I had no money. I'd then call a church- have you tried that? To me it sounds like maybe you'd rather stay with a satanist than with a Christian. I just don't understand it and it sounds like your faith might be in jeopardy.

    If it were truly important then you would follow Matthew 5:30 and do absolutely everything possible immediately, even cut off your own arm, to get away. To me it would be an absolute emergency, but I can see you're taking your time and a little frustrated with only one landlord? (aren't there many more, can't you leave town?), but otherwise enjoying free rent. What is more important to you, free rent or your faith? This should be a very easy decision. You have to choose your priorities and what is most important to you. I'm concerned for your soul.

    Joshua 24:15

    God bless...
  • Nicole - In Reply on Revelation 1 - 3 years ago
    I am seriously considering living in a motel for a while, we do pay the guy's mom $300 a month to stay here, we have been in touch with various landlords since March of this year, but no one ever gets back to us, or they rent to someone else. My husband and I don't have any relatives to stay with as my family stopped talking to me after my grandma's passing, and my husband's cousins at first agreed to us living with them until we found our own place, but then they backed out at the last minute. I can't leave this state since I am on disability, and all of my doctors are here. I definitely would not rather live with a Satanist over a Christian, we definitely don't plan on living here for very much longer.



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