Bible Discussion Thread

Question

Why in Isaiah would they say plainly "I am the Lord and besides me there is no Saviour?" And in Colossians "In him (Jesus) dwells all of the FULLNESS of the GODHEAD bodily"? Why does James say "Even the devils believe there is ONE God (not three!) And shudder" And another verse in Isaiah plainly says "Is there any God besides me? I know not of any!." Jesus says to John in Revelation "I am the Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and End, the First and the Last!" And in Exodus when Moses asks Gods name, he says "I am that I am". When Jesus said that same statement in John, the pharisees took up stones to throw at him, because they knew he was plainly saying "I am God almighty". Also in John, when Philip said "Lord, show us the father, and it sufficed us" Jesus said to him "Have I been with you so long, Philip, that you do not realize who I AM? He who has seen me has seen the father." So, how can you believe in Three Gods when the bible clearly states that there is One God ( Deuteronomy 6:4)?

Hiya Tommy i commend you for believing that Christ was God Almighty but they are 2 distinct beings 2, As Jesus said my Father is greater then I, and only the Son died not his Father 2 distinct beings. And his Father wd be lying when he said this is my beloveth Son in whom i am well pleased. We know that God cannot lie . The God head is exactly like abraham issac and jacob .Father son and Granson ,Its was granson Jacob whos name was changed to Israel that was multiplied as the sands of the seas but Jacob neva died but Christ was offered up and he died so this Promise is really about Christ being multiplied as the stars of heaven,And thats y the sower will go forth to sow his precious seed in humanity that God might be multplied as the stars of heaven in US SINNERS .To whom the word ( THAT HEAVENLY SEED ) came it made them GODS PLURAL. An Israel of God.That great Promise was multiplication of God himself Which is the H.G. the Granson .When God told Moses that his name was abraham issac and jacob ,Thats Father Son and GRANSON, 3 distinct beings. Without this Father Son n Granson scenario there cannot be an Israel of God. You folks that gag at 3 are gonna be sick. ya gona have to swollow a zillion ( as the stars of heaven ) Its God almighty that wants a posterity Jesus was just the 1 st born of many breathren, But when the sower will go forth to sow his precious seed in humanity. Christ ( the H.G. ) will be multiplied as the stars of heaven,I will pour out of my Spirit ( the H.G. ) ON ALL FLESH. Yes abraham,issac and jacob were multiplied but they were not the Children of Promise. Its only Christ and his seed that are the Israel of God. To whom the WORD came it made them Gods plural and the scrip. cannot be broken . The Son was not lying when he refers to God Almighty as his father . 3 distinct beings But Isaiah tells us of heavenly Jacob coming in v 49 the sun nor any heat doth lite on them simply b/c they are spirits , THAT WHICH IS BORN OF THE SPIRIT IS SPIRIT . k

ALEX

There are no human words that can replace the Word of GOD written in a collection of 66 books, each book divided into chapters, and each chapter divided into verses.

That which is written is upright, even words of Truth. Eccl. 12:v.10

Hiya OSEAS Yes but Jesus made comments about the written word as search the scriptures ( THE WRITTEN WORDS ) in them you think you have eternal LIFE . As eternal life is only in the living words of our lord, Jesus says My words are spirit and life the H.G. God made us able ministers of the living word not the letter that brings death but of the spirit that brings life. As the book in the Fathers right hand is the book of life that Jesus wrote with his own Blood the WORDS OF LIFE THE H.G. . Remember Israel was Sola Scriptura .Written word only But Israel stoned almost all the prophets and rejected the Christ. If the Written word cd have saved humanity Jesus shed his blood in vain and the Cross was just foolishness. God made 2 lights the lesser light and the greater light, the written word and the living word but the written word answers to the lesser light but the living Word answers to the greater LIGHT . Jesus said are there not 12 hours in a day and 12 hours in a night but if a man walk in the nite, bible only no holy spirit the living word, he is gonna stumble,There are a zillion different Churches on every corner, But we are in a time of gross darkess as Isaiah says gross darkness will cover the earth and gross darkness the people but we got zillions of bibles .But NO JESUS, As Jesus said i am the light of the WORLD but the nite comes when no man can work. The great abomination of DESOLATION is upon us.

ALEX

What prevails is the Word of GOD. The Word is GOD, understand?

JESUS left very clear: Matt.11:v.28 - ... No MAN knoweth the Son -JESUS-, but the Father - GOD the FATHER-; neither knoweth any MAN the FATHER -GOD the FATHER-, save the Son -JESUS-, and he TO WHOMSOEVER the Son will reveal Him.

...The witness of GOD is greater ..., 1John 5:v.9. Yeah, the witness of GOD is greater; the Word is GOD, understand?

Amen and Amen, Brother Alex!

Tommy Barryhill

Yeah, there is only One GOD, but He is not as you imagine He is, i say, according your human conception. What prevails is the Word of GOD, understand?

John 10:v.30 : JESUS said: I and my Father ARE One. JESUS is speaking of two distincts Persons: He and the GOD the Father. For me both ARE equal, there is not any diference, I mean, One is GOD the Father, and JESUS is GOD the Son, both ARE One.

JESUS said more: I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.

Who is the third? What does GOD the Father say and reveal by His words? IOW, what is the testemony of JESUS about the third Person? John 16:v.7-15

7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send HIM unto you.

8 And when HE IS COME, HE will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of Judgment:

9 Of sin, because they believe not on me;

10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;

11 Of Judgment, because the prince of this world (the Devil's world) is Judged.

12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye CANNOT BEAR THEM now.

13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of Truth, is come, HE will guide you into all truth: for HE shall not speak of HIMSELF; but whatsoever HE shall hear, that shall HE speak: and HE will shew you things to come.

14 HE shall glorify me: for HE SHALL RECEIVE OF MINE, and shall shew it unto you.

15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore SAID I, that HE SHALL TAKE OF MINE, and shall shew it unto you.

What does the Word of GOD say?

There are three that bear record in heaven, the FATHER, the Word(made flesh), and the Holy Spirit: and these THREE ARE One.

JESUS left very clear: No man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he TO WHOMSOEVER the Son will reveal him.

ITS IT.

Reply is over on the 'discussion room' posts: the Godhead Scriptures.

The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us..." in some passages. These scriptures are evidence of all 3 persons of the Godhead speaking to each other.

Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

Isaiah 6:8

Romans 1:20

Colossians 2:9

Acts 17:27-30

1 John 5:7

John 10:30

"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are without excuse:"

Genesis 1:1

The Father purposes

The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)

The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.

All working together. Jesus came to show us the Father, as Emmanuel

Matthew 1:23

"Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us."

Jesus came to bring to each born again believer; the baptism and the in-dwelling of the Holy Spirit.

[ Genesis 1:2, John 3:6, Acts 2:1-3,

John 16: 7-15]

To REFUSE this knowledge, is to reject the Son of God, and his provision. Read all those scriptures before you decide. Jesus doesn't brainwash anybody. Ask His followers.

Mishael