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Mark, As for your question, let me reassure you that suicide is not an unforgivable sin. Therefore, if a true believer commits suicide, though their life ended with a sin under tragic circumstances, they are still saved by the blood of Christ. The grace of God through the death and resurrection of Christ covers all sins past, present, and future. A sin that ends your life is no more potent than one that doesn't. God's grace is more powerful and covers it all. So, rest assured that ____ is in the presence of the Lord. The apostle Paul is clear on this in Philippians 1:21-23. He says that when we depart from the body (death) we are then with Christ. This goes for all believers, not just ones that didn't commit suicide.
ABOUT THE SPIRIT OF DEATH. Had some experience with this when I was younger. Death seemed to be a soft blanket to shield me from losses in life.
The following is a list to help you discern whether or not you are being attacked by a spirit of death.
* You experience difficulty finding work to support your family.
* There is an onslaught of sickness and disease reoccurring in your body.
* You are battling with discouraging thoughts to give up the fight and die.
* You are dealing with a barrage of accidents and strange events that can lead to death.
* You are struggling with suicidal thoughts.
* You fight against thoughts of harming others
* You engage in behaviors and activities that invite death, such as reckless driving, drug and alcohol abuse, and other negative habits that display a death wish.
I believe a spirit of death tried to take Jobs life. It spied on what Job was fearful of losing. Job had nothing left, homeless,sick,"friends" blamed him; all he had was faith in God. He trusted in God no matter what happened.
He was healed, got a new wife, more kids, wealth; and a deeper knowledge of who God is. Our faith is valuable. Job didn't have a Bible, but he knew God, respected God: what I learned myself. Mishael
Mishael In addition to what you shared concerning Job when Satan presented Himself to God Basically He Told God If you take your hand away from Him He'll Curse You, I would like to believe that when Satan took everything that the true God Blessed Job, God knew Jobs heart and Job Never Blamed God. Incredible when His wife argued and His Miserable friends tempted Him to Blame God. The true God told Satan Don't touch Jobs life, and in the end as you said Mishael He received more than He Had. He even witnessed to His friends in the middle of His tribulation what a man.
The thing that oft gets missed, is that Satan was lurking around Job. Spying on his habit of making sacrifices for his "partying" children. Satan perceived that maybe ? Job was fearful. He rolled the dice and approached God for permission to get at Job.
God knew Jobs heart. Job was a righteous man/human. He had relationship with God. He was a praying father of his children. He lifted them up in prayer and the sacrifice of praise and more.
The thing we need to see here, is that Satan spies on everyone. He sends his Familiar Spirits to spy on everyone and report back. Then Satan goes before the Throne and ACCUSES us to the Father.
Then Jesus is sent for, to check the Book of Life for our name. If it is in there, CASE IS DISMISSED for lack of evidence. Everything past, present and future does Not Appear. Not Guilty.
The evidence was taken to the Cross and nailed to it. Blood washed it away.
Jesus deserves for us to get this firmly in our hearts. Not to sin because we can; but to reverence Jesus for disposing of it. Not Guilty.
Remember that Satan prowls around us as a roaring Lion.
I remind him almost every day of Satan and his demons, of their future.
Be strong in the Lord and in the Power of His Might.
LISTEN for that ACCUSING voice. Take it to the Throne. I want to be a kid that knows who his Daddy is. Underneath the feathers of His Wings.
Mark Absolutely not Our Heavenly father is the author of life and health and prosperity. Gospel of John 10:9+10 The thief cometh not but to steal kill and destroy. That's all the adversary does, 10 I am come that they might have life and have it more abundantly Jesus Christ. People do this when they are tricked that there's no way out. It does not please True God, the devil could care less. P.S. Going to Jesus Christ and Confessing Romans 10:9+10 God will always make a way up and out. God Bless
It's hard to answer that in that we don't know what a person might be going through that would cause them to take their own life. I don't think God satisfaction in a person taking their own life. Most of it comes from going through some type of hardship that the individual cannot handle themselves. Even believers can be some of the most miserable people. I've been around believers who were miserable because of life's circumstances. I think it comes from not being able to fully trust the Lord when we are faced with a tough time in our life. The bible says in 1 Peter 5:5-8 that we are to cast all our cares on the Lord. Why? Because He's fully capable of handling our problems. But there are times when we in our own human effort try and resolve our own problems, and they often time become worse, even to the point to where the person gives up and is no longer trusting the Lord in their situation.
There's a word used throughout the New Testament. It's the word MERIMNA for care, anxiety, and worry. The verb form is MERIMNAO which means to be anxious, or to be troubled. It describes anything that occupies the attention of our mind. Peter presents this word as the only weapon Satan has against a believer in Christ. It's normal to go through life and be concerned, have anxiety, and even stress. That's just a normal part of life that we are all faced with. But we are taught to cast all our cares (MERIMNA) on the Lord, and not let those cares or anxieties overcome us. We're not to be so consumed by our hardships to where we are no longer trusting in the Lord.
Jesus said in Matthew 11:30, "For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light." People struggle because they try and fix things that are designed for only God to fix. But Jesus says to come to Him and He will give us rest. His yoke is easy, and His burden is light. But we let life's difficulties (MERIMNA) stand in between us and Christ. We struggle because we are not ready to hand it over to Christ!
Jesse I agree with what you share about coming to Christ and getting peace with God but my Bible also says John 10:9 The thief the adversary is the thief and His only ministry is to steal, kill and destroy. Jesus Christ total opposite I am come that they may have life and have it more abundant. When we come to Gods word get Humble and believe God always comes through. 1 Peter 5:6-8, the enemy of mankind wants to take life and he doesn't care how. One of the problems in our day and time we believe on Hog good The true God is but we don't believe that the enemy is absolutely evil. Suicide is not of The Will of the True God.Its says in Gods word he will always make a way out that a believer can handle it. God Bless
I think I'm agreeing with what you're saying if I'm understanding you correctly. I was "racking my brain" trying to figure out what "Hog good" meant but I figured out that you meant to say (how good) the true God is. You are telling me that "Suicide is not of The Will of the True God," and I agree with you completely on that. But what I am wondering about is if you're telling me that based on something I said in my post? I re-read what I typed and I said "I don't think God satisfaction in a person taking their own life." Were you responding to that? If so, I agree, that doesn't make any sense at all! What it was supposed to say is "I don't think God (takes any) satisfaction in a person taking their own life."
That's what I get for not proofreading before hitting the submit button. I'm such a nerd!
Loneliness, not understanding it! Looking for help and not getting the right kind. We should always be looking for the signs of aloneness. A smile ,with a hug can make the difference!
Hi Fred , loneliness can destroy people , it's not just about being physically alone but it can be about believing that no one cares about you , I lived alone for quite a few years and never felt lonely ,there are others who can't bare to be alone for even a couple of hours , I have relatives that some people say they talk too much , they phone too often , they turn up unexpectedly , they are always asking if they can help me in any way , all these people live alone , as Christians we must , I say must , pay special attention to people who live alone , if they start to believe that no one cares about them they can go down hill very quickly , it's our responsibility , it's our duty , to make sure that none of our members feel unloved uncared for unimportant unvalued or insignificant .
Your feelings add up to the price of trying to complete an incomplete world. The Weight. You are allowed to feel bad, it's OK. I read your posts, they are both thoughtful and reflective. You're a bright star. It is good for you to wonder about the abyss, and face it with the middle fingers of your mind, perched. I know you'll do the best you can, you are the judge of your soul. Isn't that why the resurrections happen so fast? You'll get your rhythm back; Freddy getting ready, rock steady.
Is it Biblical and does it pleases God?
Thank you.
ABOUT THE SPIRIT OF DEATH. Had some experience with this when I was younger. Death seemed to be a soft blanket to shield me from losses in life.
The following is a list to help you discern whether or not you are being attacked by a spirit of death.
* You experience difficulty finding work to support your family.
* There is an onslaught of sickness and disease reoccurring in your body.
* You are battling with discouraging thoughts to give up the fight and die.
* You are dealing with a barrage of accidents and strange events that can lead to death.
* You are struggling with suicidal thoughts.
* You fight against thoughts of harming others
* You engage in behaviors and activities that invite death, such as reckless driving, drug and alcohol abuse, and other negative habits that display a death wish.
I believe a spirit of death tried to take Jobs life. It spied on what Job was fearful of losing. Job had nothing left, homeless,sick,"friends" blamed him; all he had was faith in God. He trusted in God no matter what happened.
He was healed, got a new wife, more kids, wealth; and a deeper knowledge of who God is. Our faith is valuable. Job didn't have a Bible, but he knew God, respected God: what I learned myself. Mishael
God knew Jobs heart. Job was a righteous man/human. He had relationship with God. He was a praying father of his children. He lifted them up in prayer and the sacrifice of praise and more.
The thing we need to see here, is that Satan spies on everyone. He sends his Familiar Spirits to spy on everyone and report back. Then Satan goes before the Throne and ACCUSES us to the Father.
Then Jesus is sent for, to check the Book of Life for our name. If it is in there, CASE IS DISMISSED for lack of evidence. Everything past, present and future does Not Appear. Not Guilty.
The evidence was taken to the Cross and nailed to it. Blood washed it away.
Jesus deserves for us to get this firmly in our hearts. Not to sin because we can; but to reverence Jesus for disposing of it. Not Guilty.
Remember that Satan prowls around us as a roaring Lion.
I remind him almost every day of Satan and his demons, of their future.
Be strong in the Lord and in the Power of His Might.
LISTEN for that ACCUSING voice. Take it to the Throne. I want to be a kid that knows who his Daddy is. Underneath the feathers of His Wings.
It's hard to answer that in that we don't know what a person might be going through that would cause them to take their own life. I don't think God satisfaction in a person taking their own life. Most of it comes from going through some type of hardship that the individual cannot handle themselves. Even believers can be some of the most miserable people. I've been around believers who were miserable because of life's circumstances. I think it comes from not being able to fully trust the Lord when we are faced with a tough time in our life. The bible says in 1 Peter 5:5-8 that we are to cast all our cares on the Lord. Why? Because He's fully capable of handling our problems. But there are times when we in our own human effort try and resolve our own problems, and they often time become worse, even to the point to where the person gives up and is no longer trusting the Lord in their situation.
There's a word used throughout the New Testament. It's the word MERIMNA for care, anxiety, and worry. The verb form is MERIMNAO which means to be anxious, or to be troubled. It describes anything that occupies the attention of our mind. Peter presents this word as the only weapon Satan has against a believer in Christ. It's normal to go through life and be concerned, have anxiety, and even stress. That's just a normal part of life that we are all faced with. But we are taught to cast all our cares (MERIMNA) on the Lord, and not let those cares or anxieties overcome us. We're not to be so consumed by our hardships to where we are no longer trusting in the Lord.
Jesus said in Matthew 11:30, "For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light." People struggle because they try and fix things that are designed for only God to fix. But Jesus says to come to Him and He will give us rest. His yoke is easy, and His burden is light. But we let life's difficulties (MERIMNA) stand in between us and Christ. We struggle because we are not ready to hand it over to Christ!
I think I'm agreeing with what you're saying if I'm understanding you correctly. I was "racking my brain" trying to figure out what "Hog good" meant but I figured out that you meant to say (how good) the true God is. You are telling me that "Suicide is not of The Will of the True God," and I agree with you completely on that. But what I am wondering about is if you're telling me that based on something I said in my post? I re-read what I typed and I said "I don't think God satisfaction in a person taking their own life." Were you responding to that? If so, I agree, that doesn't make any sense at all! What it was supposed to say is "I don't think God (takes any) satisfaction in a person taking their own life."
That's what I get for not proofreading before hitting the submit button. I'm such a nerd!
Your feelings add up to the price of trying to complete an incomplete world. The Weight. You are allowed to feel bad, it's OK. I read your posts, they are both thoughtful and reflective. You're a bright star. It is good for you to wonder about the abyss, and face it with the middle fingers of your mind, perched. I know you'll do the best you can, you are the judge of your soul. Isn't that why the resurrections happen so fast? You'll get your rhythm back; Freddy getting ready, rock steady.
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