Bible Discussion Thread

I have been told that taking the covid 19 vaccinations/shots is all part of the mark of the beast. I am a Christian, I have sin that I have asked God to forgive. I hoping to go to heaven, but as I have taken the shots have I become a part of the mark of the beast? I do believe that our Savior would have let me know I should not take the shots. Can you advise?

Revelations 13:16-18 states the mark of the beast will either be on the forehead or right hand. It will be visible...a vaccination is injected into your body and unseen. So no the vaccination is not the mark of the beast.

Hallelujah, please note that the verse says "in", not "on". All yawl just keep looking to Jesus.

How can there possibly be a "mark of the beast", when the beast hasn't come of age yet? The only logical explanation for such a concept is due to lack of Biblical knowledge.

Correct, the 6th trump is not as yet ,.. satin must first , show up ( when Michael kicks him an his angels out of heaven ) Revelation chapter 12 vs's 7 - 11 ,.. so when he is finally on earth deceiving many , an those who follow, are the ones that have the mark of the beast,..

I was taught that this part of the Book of Revelation (where Satan and the evil angels that followed him; were kicked out of heaven by Michael the Archangel)

Happened before Genesis 1:1

The Holy Spirit moved upon the face of the waters. Job10:22

A quick flip over to John 1:1-5

It is almost palpable that everything and the Holy Spirit were waiting for the WORD to speak:

Psalm 33:6-7

God started Time ticking on earth.

The Word God spoke: Let there be....

Studying Genesis is so much more revealing when us search the "center of each page reference column scriptures, with it". Study Bibles with that verticle center column, makes study more interesting. There's nuggets of gold all through the Bible. I had to learn Not To Speed Read through Genesis. There's a treasure just in Job's reference columns.

Yes , Lucifer had not only prides himself in the 1st earth age , but also took a third of our brother's an sisters, an left God with a very hard choice, destroy Lucifer an the third of his children, or ,.. destroy that earth age , an begin a new age so that all of us could decide to love him or satin ( Lucifer ) as you can see , he did , which was called the catabol , an the beginning a 2nd earth age , an created flesh man & woman,.. an this age is a testing ground,.. who will you love ?

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Mishael: that word is not in the Bible. You have read some heretic teaching on google or in a book called OLD EARTH THEORY. I read all the Google stuff on this and it is a cult teaching. Go search that.

Revelation chapter 12 , will document, this

In my opinion the beast is just an incarnation of satan who does exist and I think 666 is already the number, so I personally, will watch out for anything resembling that. I don't expect to see something like godzilla trashing cities, but perhaps less obvious using some kind of technology that does just as much damage. There have been interesting movies made involving humans vs machines that could be plausible for another end-of-world scenario.

There is the end of this age , but there is no end of the world,.. our father is a loving father,.. he will an dose over see all actions

The mark of the beast will happen only after we have been raptured and it the Bible says that it will be on our hands and or our foreheads. How do I know this its because the mark of the beast is related to worshipping the beast. The beast will come only after the church( the wife) has been rapture which then the world will descends into total chaos. Will then the beast will rise up. I apologize because I didn't put any verses I was just searching for another verse in job and happen to run into this comment so I thought I might shed some clarity. I urge you to do your own research and ask the Holy Spirit to reveal to you new revelations that can help you understand the scriptures. :) God bless you abundantly and have a blessed day!!!!!!!!

some thing everyone seems to get some wrong ideas about:The BIBLE doesn't say he causes all to have his mark "ON" their hand or "ON" their forehead, it says "IN". Next the beast is Spiritual. When it says coming out of the sea I think that would indicate "Sea of peoples" or nations" thus the seven heads and ten horns. Finally the number 666 may indicate money . 666 is identified in 1Kings 10:14 which was the amount of gold Solomon receive in one year. Do the math, he was very rich.

Marco,

Knowing that the Holy Spirit dwells in the lives of every believer who has been born of the Spirit, what you are saying makes perfect sense. The reason why this world is not in complete chaos right now is because there is a force that is keeping it from being in that state, and that force is God's Spirit. But once that force is removed (Christ removing His church), there will be nothing holding back the chaotic events described in the book of Revelation. While chaos is taking place on the earth, believers will be celebrating at the wedding feast prior to coming back with the Lord at His second coming.

Thank you for your post!

Jesse,

How is the "church" removed at the seventh and final trumpet, after the great tribulation, and after the mystery of God is over? For such a man-made doctrine to be successful, it must be implemented prior to the day of the Lord, prior to the abomination of desolation, prior to the destruction of God's people, prior to Joel 2:1-11, or it's pointless. Be it pre or post tribulation "rapture", you are taking God's word to create your own special path to heaven.

It is the sealed witnesses, ( Revelation 11:12) those who are spiritually worthy, who are lifted up at the last trump to everlasting life. Firstfruits. Do not even consider standing next to these pure virgin saints that are called and faithful. God makes the order of how the end-times will unfold, not narcissistic man.

What difference will it make for you to wait your turn and not force your way in, just like Jacob?

I beive you have mixt up some text here Thomas. God bless you in Jesus name.

Thomas,

I will answer your first question by simply saying it's not! I've never once said that "the church would be removed at the seventh and final trumpet, after the great tribulation, and after the mystery of God is over." I am not going to respond to the rest since you are making statements about me that are not even close to describing who I am and what I believe. You are insinuating that I am taking God's word to create my own special path to heaven, accusing me of being a narcissistic man, and trying to force my way into heaven.

You can accuse me if you wish, but this is far from the truth of who I am and what I believe. First of all, my path to heaven is through Jesus Christ, no other way, period! There is no other way, so no one is able to create their own special pathway. A narcissistic man? That doesn't deserve a response. And trying to force my way into heaven? I know that's impossible and that no one can force their way in. Again, my only way in is through Jesus Christ, no other way.

Hopefully, this gives you a better understanding of who I am before you start throwing more rude insinuations and accusations my way. If you would like to have a respectful discussion, I would be happy to do so. Otherwise, I can't see our discussions being fruitful!

Hi Jesse, I would like to thank you for your teachings, and Humility without compromising the truth.

We value and highly appreciate your teachings.

God bless.

Brother Spencer,

You are too kind. All I can do is the same thing everyone else does, and that is share what I have learned. I have to give the Lord all the glory. And like you say, we should never compromise the truth. But what is truth? My dear brother, truth is not what I say, or what anyone else here says. Truth is a person, and that person is Jesus Christ. We are all fallible human beings capable of error. That is something I always have to keep in the back of my mind in order to have the correct perspective on what truth is.

You also have some great things to share and you have been a blessing not only to me, but to others as well. It's not that important that we always agree with each other because that's not always going to happen. But as you say, we should never compromise truth for the sake of love, or fear of offending someone. As long as we are preaching truth, and we realize truth is a person, not what any of us say, I believe God will bless that, because God will only bless two or more that are gathered together and are playing the same song. They don't have to be playing the same part, but they do have to be playing the same song!

Amen Brother Jesse.

John 14:6.

And if I'm correct that truth shall be manifested into us. It should be his voice we hear with the open ear through other believers, Love, Humility and Meekness should keep us in union.

John 14:16-26. And I will pray THE FATHER, AND HE SHALL GIVE YOU ANOTHER COMFORTER, THAT HE MAY ABIDE WITH YOU FOR EVER;

EVEN THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH; WHOM THE WORLD CANNOT RECEIVE, BECAUSE IT SEETH HIM NOT, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.

At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?

Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and WE WILL COME UNTO HIM, AND MAKE OUR ABODE WITH HIM.

He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.

These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you.

BUT THE COMFORTER, WHICH IS THE HOLY GHOST, WHOM THE FATHER WILL SEND IN MY NAME, HE SHALL TEACH YOU ALL THINGS, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

Thanks again and God bless.

S Spenser we must have an understanding of when these things are being said an to whom they are said to. Jesus is speaking before his death, burial, and resurrection and he is speaking to the people of Israel, the only people the commandment law was given to. As a gentile, you were never subject to the law as it was given to the Jew and the Jew only. At the time of the writings of John, Jesus is telling Phillip and Judah that after his death, burial, and resurrection another Comforter will come and will teach them all things and bring all things to their remembrance. That Comforter, which is the Holy Spirit, did come on the day of Pentecost and poured out its spirit. But after those days I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah, not like the one I made with their fathers when I brought them out of the land of Egypt. What we need to learn, know and understand is what that New Testament was.

Hi ART.

Thanks for your input, our focus wasn't on any covenant it was on Truth. (Jesus)

The Emphasis on our discussion wasn't on Gods covenant to Israel, My Emphasis was on the Power of the Holyspirit being able to reveal truth.

You're right Jesus is speaking to Jews before the death burial and resurrection,

However he didn't give them what he spoke about ( HOLYSPIRIT) until after his death burial and resurrection, And he told them to take the gospel unto the earth.

Acts 1:8. But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. This is the foundation being laid and Jesus the chief corner stone. And the CHURCH is built on it.

God bless

Amen and Amen, Brother Jesse:

The way, the truth and the life are a PERSON and because WE are His possession, His way, His truth, His Life. WE MUST DIE DAILY; until, ONLY HE REMAINS. He gave his life for us, we must lay down our life (first death), FOR HIS LIFE (first resurrection).

As of now, only 7001 of our brothers an sisters are doomed for destruction, Lucifer, ( Ezekiel chapter 28 , an the 7000 fallen angels, ( Jude vs 1- 8 ) all others are as of now , judged by works , an are on one side or the other in heaven, those left till the coming of Lucifer an his fallen angels, will have choices, be deceived by him an join him during his short time left , or rebuke him , an stay away, some of course will be delivered up for a testimony in which the Holy Spirit speaks threw them , which even the gain sayers believe, an turn away from the anti- Christ,.. it's when he kills the 2 witnesses, the real clock begins, for 3 days after that , the 2 witnesses rise, an the real Jesus comes , on a white horse an a iron rod ,.. as long as you are in the flesh , the real Jesus, is not HERE

Marco,

I'm having a hard time with this. Can you back up any of these supernatural ideas you have. While the saints remain on earth, you will be taken out by God? Where in church doctrine is this stated, where in scripture because I can't find it. It must be supported by a faith. Did the people of WWII have the same mindset, did they live in the end-times too? My concern is the accuracy of your claims, interpretations, and the damage done otherwise. In my heart of hearts, the saints are the only ones worthy of the honor, the rest can wait.

All of us , are Gods children,.. an our father is NOT , a respecter of persons ( in other words, no one is more important than another) you can find that in 1st Peter chapter 1 vs 17 ,..

Thanks Marco.



God bless you.

Deana, precious friend, The LORD would have us not to worry. We are still in God's

"Age Of GRACE!" We, who believe In The LORD JESUS CHRIST, His Death, Burial,

And Resurrection, for the forgiveness of all of our sins, have a "Heavenly Hope!"

( 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18) and ( 1 Corinthians 15:51-57). Also, we "are NOT

appointed to wrath!" ( 1 Thessalonians 5:9-11) and ( 1 Thessalonians 1:10).

COMFORT! Amen?

Thus, The Body Of CHRIST Will Depart from the earth, To Judgment In Heaven,

Before the Great Tribulation Of Israel and the nations begins, on the earth.

The man of Sin, son of Perdition does NOT appear, and his "mark" does

NOT exist, until After we are gone.

Please be Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, and Edified In:

Romans - Philemon = God's GRACE/PEACE Love Letters Directly TO us,

Today, For: Consolation, Comfort, Edification, Enjoyment, Encouragement,

And spiritual Building Up Of All The BLOOD-Washed "members { saints!" }

In The Body Of CHRIST!, HIS Church, Seated In Heaven! Amen?

Please start here, But remember: "ALL Scripture is Profitable for learning!"

( 2 Timothy 3:16-17)

To The Praise And Glory Of HIS GRACE!!

The Bible is true, and it is certain that the mark of the beast is not the vaccine, nor is it the testing for C19.

The Bible tells us that the mark of the beast will be received willingly, but the vast majority who will receive it, will know nothing about it until it is too late.

In Revelation 18:23 we find the following text which is referring to modern day Babylon.

"for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived."

This word "sorceries" is strongs G5331 "pharmakeia" which is where the English word pharmacy has its roots.

The Biblical meaning in a nutshell, is the use or the administering of drugs.

There can be no doubt that the use and administering of drugs is one of the means by which the serpent uses to deceive "all nations."

And by this text we can know for sure that all the nations will be deceived into receiving the mark of the beast, but it is not the mark of the beast in and of itself.

We know this because the mark of the beast is determined by whom we worship.

The controversy which began in heaven was between Christ and Satan, and it is over the worship that rightfully belongs to Christ; it is that which Satan covets. The one thing that Satan desired from Christ when He came to the earth was His worship; and Satan was prepared to give everything for it. Matthew 4:8-9 proves this point, as does the following.

"If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, the same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation."[ Rev. 14:9, 10.] See also Revelation 13:15.

And so it is by worshipping the beast that we give homage to the god of this world, and in so doing we will receive his mark.

Our attention therefore, should be upon receiving the mark or the seal of the living God, for if we have His seal, then we shall never receive the mark of the beast.

Hi deana ,.. If I may , with a companion Bible, or a king James an Dr. Strongs concordance, you can read a better understand,.. revelation 13 vs 16 is the " right hand" meaning that you are supporting this man and working with him, " foreheads" meaning thoughts in your mind. Remember, he is a spiritual man, not flesh an blood , go back to 13 vs 13 an it tells you the great power he has , an it will amaze everyone, an this will be a such a show it will deceive many ,.. an he will not be literally killing flesh men or women, it's spiritual death , meaning you worshiped him , so wen the real Jesus comes , you'll be on the outside looking in during the millennium,.. an that's not a place you wanna be !!!

Hi, I just want to let you know what the Lord has revealed to me about the vaccine. If you have already taken it please do not condemn yourself for it, as it is not the mark of the beast. The Lord has revealed to me that the m.o.t.b. will be in form of a computer rfid chip in the right hand or a mark on the forehead(likely or possibly being a form of a technological chip as well) Please if you have any worries about it pray to God and ask him. James 1:5 says "If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him." Ask God in Faith in Jesus Christ, nothing wavering and He will give you Wisdom from above. I hope this helps, May God bless you!

If you are not an Israelite you can not sin as the laws were not given to you, neither can you enter the kingdom of Heaven. It's only for the House of Israel, 12 tribes. I am happy to show you in the scriptures

1 John 3:4 whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is transgression of the law.

Moses gave the commandments to the Israelites when they came out of Egypt: the house of bondage. No other nation have been given the laws. You can't break laws you were never given.

Psalm 147:19 He sheweth his word unto Jacob, his statutes and his judgments unto Israel.

Psalm 147:20 He hath not dealt so with any nation: and as for his judgments, they have not known them. Praise ye the LORD.

Revelation 21:12 And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:

Above this scripture describes the

outer perimeter of the kingdom as seen in a vision by John the Revelator. 12 gates for twelve tribes guarded by twelve angels.

Matthew 19:28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

Read John 8:32 Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

At the 9th hour , ( 3 pm ). He gave up the spirit, meaning he had passed away, at that exact time , the curtain on the holy of holy's , was rent , top to bottom, Gods way of saying, All may enter ,.. you need no flesh man , to speak to our Heavenly Father,.. the 10 tribes went over the caucus mountains, settled Europe, an then later the Canadians, an Americas ,.. we all are Gods children, we all can an do sin , an we all will have the right to enter Gods kingdom, ( eventually) how quick, will depend on your actions upon the arrival of the 6 trump , worship him , an you'll be waiting another day ,.. an what's a day in our spiritual lives ? 2nd Peter chapter 3 vs 8 - 10 ,.. " one day with lord is of a thousand years of man "

Hi Henry in your beginning reply to Rev. 13: 16 just something to think about all sin is broken fellowship with God. Ephesians 2:5 we were all born in sin, i.e. no fellowship with God which was fixed by Jesus Christ. That's all mankind going back to adam first time mentioned going back to Gen.4:7 before the murder of abel by Caln. Also Romans 5:8-14 for your consideration. God Bless.

Please relax, God has you in his hands and you are going to heaven. I did not want to do the Vaccination for several reasons, the Mark of Beast, Government, e are protected by his blood.. God is not going to hold us accountable. He will not punish us for what we do not know.

God has given man a free will. No one can take it away. We are responsible for our own decisions, likewise being deceived into worshiping an image from a vaccine is not valid! You must except the anti Christ willingly, He cannot just take you away! Intimidation is another one of His means to an end. He is always trying to deceive people into thinking "its Gods fault." That our sinful situation is because of Him.

Nebuchadnezzar gave Danial and his three friends a choice! Of course they chose not to worship the Image! In our case we have not been given a choice to worship an Image, if a vaccine means you are automatically serving an Image! The time will come when we need to buy and sell. It will then become apparent if indeed what you say is true. It will be at that time you will be given a choice. How that will happen we do not Know! It will be at that time you will either except or reject the image of The anti Christ. These things that are happening are the testing times to see how this evil one will come and when? This generation or the next. Remember what Jesus said ,"this generation shall not pass till all things be fulfilled." The spirit of anti Christ has been alive from the beginning, He is always testing the faith of man! Jesus says "Watch for you and I do not know when that day will be, not even the angels in heaven!

After reading Revelation 13:17 I can see how the current situation is eerily similar. Leftists in DC are pushing for vaccine passports so only those with the vaccine can buy or sell. The only thing is it's not a mark in the right hand or forehead like it says in verse 16 (unless I'm missing something). And verse 18 says 666 is a number of a man- maybe only 1 specific person- maybe 1 specific anti-Christ that is pushing for everyone to get the mark?

It should become clear that America is at a lose of her sovereignty, but has lost in the midst of a pandemic the ability to preach the Good news! I remember Christ words when He said He is coming. Is he coming for you? At no other time could I more persuasive then to say look up your redemption draws nigh! These days are upon us. Rejoice ,I say, Rejoice!

Deana,

Calling the US govt the beast would only serve as flattery. Even though the US emulates it, they stand in direct opposition to the beast. I wonder what tit for tat we will see from these 2 giants before they open a seal.