Bible Discussion Thread

will you remember your life on earth when you die?

Gladys,

I would answer yes to that. In the parable of the rich man and Lazarus in Luke Chapter 16, the rich man had died and was in Hades and he was in torments. Now, beginning at verse 25, Abraham says to the rich man, remember in your lifetime that you received good things and Lazarus received evil things? So the rich man must have had memory of his life.

So then down in verses 27 and 28, the rich man asks that Abraham would send someone to his father's house to testify to his brothers and warn them so they would not come into this same place of torment that the rich man was in.

It is interesting that he has the remembrance of his past life on earth. He remembers his family. He remembers his brothers. And he says, father Abraham, send somebody to testify to them so that they will not come to this place of torment.

Brother Jesse, I would ask a favor, I would like to know the word torment in the parable of Larazus and the rich man. The Greek word translated torment. How was it use in other verses. Is it mental angush, seeing the glory the Son of God received, or physical torment.

Earl,

The word torment used in the parable of the rich man and Lazarus is the Greek word BASANOIS. The meaning from Greek to English would pretty much be the same as what we would understand torment to be. Whether it is mental anguish or physical torment, I think it can be both. It seemed to be both for the rich man. He seemed to be in a state of mental torment knowing that his family members (brothers) would soon be in this same place unless someone went to warn them. We also know that he was in physical torment, wanting the tip of his tongue to be cooled. Can you imagine that? Here is a man in physical torment and all he asks is for the tip of his tongue to be cooled. He didn't ask for someone to throw him a rope so he could get out!

We also know that there is a place of eternal torment called the lake of fire. To tell you how the word torment is used in other verses would take a tremendous amount of time and space. That's a huge favor. I don't mind sharing my understanding with you but I'm not sure I want to tackle that one. The short answer is that the word torment means pretty much the same in English as it does in Greek.

For the rich man in Hades, he's still in torment. One day he will be released, judged at the Great White Throne Judgement, and then cast into the lake of fire, a place of eternal torment.

Sorry I couldn't give you more. If you want the verses to look them up, here are the ones I found:

Matthew 8:29, Mark 5:7, Luke 8:28, Luke 16:28, 1 John 4:18, Revelation 9:5, Revelation 14:11, Revelation 18:7, Revelation 18:10, Revelation 18:15

Hello, this is just my opinion, not based on scripture, but I believe will have perfectly clear memories in the afterlife. We develop our character here on earth and if we genuinely follow Christ then we build our character to be Christlike. Those who don't care or are lazy or say they're Christians, but do nothing I think are in danger, just as many verses in the Bible say. Matthew 7:23 etc. Since we have freewill in heaven (angels did like satan), I believe people we do too. And if we have freewill and aren't robots, that means we had better NOT sin in heaven! God won't allow such evil in his presence. So we had better clean up and clean up fast and get it right here on earth, else, I have doubts that the unprepared and untransformed will be granted into heaven's gates. That is my own opinion, but as the scripture says, most want to go there, but most won't make it in.

Brother Adam, do you believe God's elect are going to judge the world.

Do you believe the dead abiding in the grave, will be resurrected back in their bodies of flesh, but God's elect (already resurrected with Christ) will be in glorified bodies, like Christ was after his resurrection.

We are all at different levels of understanding (exactly where God wants each of us to be at this point in our lives).

I know you believe you go to heaven, but do you believe that's all there is.

I'm just curious.

When the Spirit is finished with us, we will all be the fulness of Christ.

Ephesians 2:10 For we are his WORKMANSHIP, created in Christ Jesus unto (CHRIST) good works, which God hath BEFORE ORDAINED (no free will) that we should walk in them (CHRIST'S GOOD WORKS). Remember we are DEAD and there is ONLY one LIFE and that LIFE IS CHRIST.

I know (I've been there) it's hard to give up traditions of man (free will); We are just the POT, made to ONLY hold the SPIRIT, the Spirit is the potter, the one doing all the WORK.

Philippians 2:13 for it is God (SPIRIT) that WORKETH IN YOU both to WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.

The Spirit reveals at his appointed time.

Hi Earl,

If you're genuinely interested in my opinion can you please refine your questions to be more specific, because I don't completely understand what you're asking. For example, your first sentence sounds like a question, but seems like a different topic and you didn't end in a ? so you probably aren't interested in my opinion. "I know you believe you go to heaven, but do you believe that's all there is." I don't know what you mean by that either or how that relates to my comment to Gladys. What are your beliefs in regards to your own questions? God bless.

have you not read?

Isaiah 45:23

I have sworn by myself[god], the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.

Romans 14:11

For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.

you have to admit it if Paul believed this how true must it be?