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Hi Sandra , I'm not anti vaccination , I'm for the freedom to choose , you mention that your workplace is a Christian environment so this scripture might be understood by your boss and workmates . 2 Samuel , Ch24 , especially V10 to 14 . When God offers David a choice of punishments notice David's answer V14 . It could be said that the vaccine represents man's hands . Again I say I'm not anti vaccination . I believe we should all be able to choose .
Romans 13:4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
You should tell your workplace that you've already spoken to the manager. God is the higher authority. We are of God or created by God in the flesh, and work for God in service to God in the spirit. "Then one of them, when he saw that he was healed, turned back, praising God with a loud voice; 16 and he fell on his face at Jesus' feet, giving him thanks. Now he was a Samaritan. 17 Then Jesus answered, "Were not ten cleansed? Where are the nine? 18 Was no one found to return and give praise to God except this foreigner?" 19 And he said to him, "Rise and go your way; your faith has made you well." Faith heals. Not blind belief.
Peter was commanded by the governing authorities, council & high priest, to not preach the gospel. He said we ought to obey God rather than man.
We ought to have peace in our hearts and Christ says be according to each man according to his faith.
The head of every man is Christ and it is better to obey Him than man.
Just because someone or entity tells me something is ok doesn't mean I will eat. Let the Holy Spirit guide you God will always meet your needs.
It seems from the least to the greatest this issue is causing a great division. The Spirit of Christ does not cause division - This is the spirit of the anti Christ. John 10:10 this is the thief.
Christ comes to give us life and life more abundantly.
Hello Sandra. Yours is a predicament being faced by many all over the world. And more so for believers, when a Scripture as Romans 13:1 is cast upon an employee.
Firstly, I believe that this Scripture is directed to where a government or their authorized entity is bound by Law to demand something from their citizens, to which, citizens must obey or accept; whether to exact a penalty for a crime, for payment of taxes & other dues, to live properly & peaceably in society, & a whole lot more. Even though the cruel Roman govt. was in power in Paul's days, he was still subject to them, suffering as a Christian.
So, if in your country/state, it has become Law that every citizen has to receive the injection, then you have to obey or suffer the consequences (with a penalty). However, in your question, it seems that the govt. has not enforced the vaccine on all, but it is actually the requirement of your employer. Is your employer under some order from the govt. to enforce this upon employers/businesses, or is it because your employer just wants to ensure that all their staff are adequately vaccinated? If the latter, and they refuse to hear of any dissension on the issue, even if you explain that you fear possible adverse affects on your health or for conscience sake, then the choice is before you. Either take the vaccine or leave the job & trust the Lord for another. But the way things are moving, it appears that unless you're self-employed or retired, one may not get any choice about it in the future. If you have some under-lying medical issue, often a doctor's letter to that effect will help.
In answer to your question, I believe that Romans 13:1 has been misused by your employer as you are subject to him/her only & this has not become a governmental law. To be able to make a choice (especially in this case of vaccinations), this should always be our right (as was done in past epidemics/diseases), but unfortunately, employers also can dictate their requirements.
Because the experimental covid injections have killed so many thousands of people (possibly more than million worldwide) and because it has caused so many thousands of injuries 500k in the US and millions worldwide, and because people who get it are getting covid even easier than those without, and because it doesn't limit the spread either, I believe it's wrong to take it and immoral to push others to take it. I believe evil people are using this as a sick experiment to make billions in profits. They are calling most of the deaths from the injection as covid to continue pushing the lie. They also lie and call deaths from the injection as 'unvaccinated' deaths if within 14 days of the injection. Flu, pneumonia, and other diseases are almost disappeared only because they are simply calling it all 'covid' so they can make more money. It has bankrupted people and their banning of the antiviral meds that work like HCQ and Ivermectin is pure evil.
God gave us an immune system and wants us to take care of our bodies (which are God's property), like through eating right and exercise. People in fear are falsely assuming there's no alternative but to take this stupid untested death injection. Our God-given immune system is the #1 strongest fight against any virus. I don't understand why people are deathly afraid of something that isn't even the leading cause of death? The same fanatics have less fear for heart disease, cancer from smoking, alcohol and drug abuse, abortion, falling, and other deaths that are way more dangerous than covid. It's all about fear and propaganda pushing the fear. The CDC's death count isn't even correct. 600k have NOT died from it in the US. The CDC admits this in fine print on their own website. Only 5% of their deaths are due only to 'covid' and I suspect its even less than that. There is no evidence of a pandemic. Total deaths seem normal for the growing population. This may be the strong delusion the Bible talks about.
Precious friend(s), My family and I (3) have had the covid, and, Praise God, have 'recovered.' Our "immunity" should be good for another year, Correct?
I am retired, and Yes, I believe in the freedom to research / 'discuss' this with the family physician, and having the 'choice' of what's BEST for us, whether it is the mandated 'death' injection, OR, "the antiviral meds that work like HCQ and Ivermectin" {thanks Adam}, or, is not there now something called the 'Monoclonal Antibodies' that are also Very Effective?
Sorry to hear that you and your family have suffered with the covid, but also very glad to hear that you, and family members affected, have now recovered. We also praise God along with you for the healing.
I also believe that God created his children to have special talents, including the knowledge to use medicine to heal. God provides us with this knowledge to help ourselves as the following scripture mentions.
Revelation 22:2
"In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations."
2 Kings 20:7
"And Isaiah said, Take a lump of figs. And they took and laid it on the boil, and he recovered."
Even Jesus acknowledges that we may need a physician:
Matthew 9:12
"But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick."
We Praise God for your recovery, as God continues to use others, and methods (Physicians, pharmaceuticals) to help us in the healing our physical ailments.
Thank you Gentle Brothers in Christ for sharing our hearts together. A few thoughts:
The Gospel message for the Christian to share is "To Come". Do we want to hinder this message by the cares of this world? The scriptures say to give honor to those who have authority over us. God has seen to protect His children by authorities in the world so that in the world we can be quiet and stay on message. What is the message? The message He made in our lives by Christ Jesus, our Life, our eternal life, which is seen by our neighbors by our peace and love. We have been bought for a price and we cannot pickup where we left off in our worldly pride and worldly self worth. Our value is in Him. We can be lambs in Him and he is our Shepherd and if we will follow Him we can lay down our lives without fear for our Love that we have for our friends.
Spiritual discernment is needed in medical and political issues in our lives.
Thinking of Works, preparations in the flesh kingdom for a future Peaceful Kingdom are not necessary if we believe by faith the Peaceful Kingdom is at hand. The finished Work of Jesus Christ at Calvary which also binds Satan, allows the Kingdom of God to dwell in man. In this Kingdom we are His purpose for His value.
With real life tribulations like serious injury as our family experienced this past summer, it affected our abilities to do things that we would like to have done, like eating together as a family at one table. There were many things that are right and good that we could not do. There might have been noticeable gloominess even, but even in this place of second choice, the whole family carried on with Peace in our hearts. Likely noticed by neighbors particularly of the grace upon the one who was injured. Peace is not works, it is a gift from above while living in the flesh by faith.
Can someone help me, I feel that is misinterpreted. Thanks
The Higher Power & Minister is of God, not man.
I have taken my shots, Some of my family haven't.
Peter was commanded by the governing authorities, council & high priest, to not preach the gospel. He said we ought to obey God rather than man.
We ought to have peace in our hearts and Christ says be according to each man according to his faith.
The head of every man is Christ and it is better to obey Him than man.
Just because someone or entity tells me something is ok doesn't mean I will eat. Let the Holy Spirit guide you God will always meet your needs.
It seems from the least to the greatest this issue is causing a great division. The Spirit of Christ does not cause division - This is the spirit of the anti Christ. John 10:10 this is the thief.
Christ comes to give us life and life more abundantly.
Trust in God He will direct your steps!
Firstly, I believe that this Scripture is directed to where a government or their authorized entity is bound by Law to demand something from their citizens, to which, citizens must obey or accept; whether to exact a penalty for a crime, for payment of taxes & other dues, to live properly & peaceably in society, & a whole lot more. Even though the cruel Roman govt. was in power in Paul's days, he was still subject to them, suffering as a Christian.
So, if in your country/state, it has become Law that every citizen has to receive the injection, then you have to obey or suffer the consequences (with a penalty). However, in your question, it seems that the govt. has not enforced the vaccine on all, but it is actually the requirement of your employer. Is your employer under some order from the govt. to enforce this upon employers/businesses, or is it because your employer just wants to ensure that all their staff are adequately vaccinated? If the latter, and they refuse to hear of any dissension on the issue, even if you explain that you fear possible adverse affects on your health or for conscience sake, then the choice is before you. Either take the vaccine or leave the job & trust the Lord for another. But the way things are moving, it appears that unless you're self-employed or retired, one may not get any choice about it in the future. If you have some under-lying medical issue, often a doctor's letter to that effect will help.
In answer to your question, I believe that Romans 13:1 has been misused by your employer as you are subject to him/her only & this has not become a governmental law. To be able to make a choice (especially in this case of vaccinations), this should always be our right (as was done in past epidemics/diseases), but unfortunately, employers also can dictate their requirements.
Because the experimental covid injections have killed so many thousands of people (possibly more than million worldwide) and because it has caused so many thousands of injuries 500k in the US and millions worldwide, and because people who get it are getting covid even easier than those without, and because it doesn't limit the spread either, I believe it's wrong to take it and immoral to push others to take it. I believe evil people are using this as a sick experiment to make billions in profits. They are calling most of the deaths from the injection as covid to continue pushing the lie. They also lie and call deaths from the injection as 'unvaccinated' deaths if within 14 days of the injection. Flu, pneumonia, and other diseases are almost disappeared only because they are simply calling it all 'covid' so they can make more money. It has bankrupted people and their banning of the antiviral meds that work like HCQ and Ivermectin is pure evil.
God gave us an immune system and wants us to take care of our bodies (which are God's property), like through eating right and exercise. People in fear are falsely assuming there's no alternative but to take this stupid untested death injection. Our God-given immune system is the #1 strongest fight against any virus. I don't understand why people are deathly afraid of something that isn't even the leading cause of death? The same fanatics have less fear for heart disease, cancer from smoking, alcohol and drug abuse, abortion, falling, and other deaths that are way more dangerous than covid. It's all about fear and propaganda pushing the fear. The CDC's death count isn't even correct. 600k have NOT died from it in the US. The CDC admits this in fine print on their own website. Only 5% of their deaths are due only to 'covid' and I suspect its even less than that. There is no evidence of a pandemic. Total deaths seem normal for the growing population. This may be the strong delusion the Bible talks about.
I am retired, and Yes, I believe in the freedom to research / 'discuss' this with the family physician, and having the 'choice' of what's BEST for us, whether it is the mandated 'death' injection, OR, "the antiviral meds that work like HCQ and Ivermectin" {thanks Adam}, or, is not there now something called the 'Monoclonal Antibodies' that are also Very Effective?
ChrisE
Sorry to hear that you and your family have suffered with the covid, but also very glad to hear that you, and family members affected, have now recovered. We also praise God along with you for the healing.
I also believe that God created his children to have special talents, including the knowledge to use medicine to heal. God provides us with this knowledge to help ourselves as the following scripture mentions.
Revelation 22:2
"In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations."
2 Kings 20:7
"And Isaiah said, Take a lump of figs. And they took and laid it on the boil, and he recovered."
Even Jesus acknowledges that we may need a physician:
Matthew 9:12
"But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick."
We Praise God for your recovery, as God continues to use others, and methods (Physicians, pharmaceuticals) to help us in the healing our physical ailments.
God Bless.
The Gospel message for the Christian to share is "To Come". Do we want to hinder this message by the cares of this world? The scriptures say to give honor to those who have authority over us. God has seen to protect His children by authorities in the world so that in the world we can be quiet and stay on message. What is the message? The message He made in our lives by Christ Jesus, our Life, our eternal life, which is seen by our neighbors by our peace and love. We have been bought for a price and we cannot pickup where we left off in our worldly pride and worldly self worth. Our value is in Him. We can be lambs in Him and he is our Shepherd and if we will follow Him we can lay down our lives without fear for our Love that we have for our friends.
Spiritual discernment is needed in medical and political issues in our lives.
Be brave.
:)
We follow him because of HIS WORK:
Ezekiel 36:27
Philippians 1:29
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