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According to the Scripture, Peter taught that repentance, baptism, and belief in Jesus as Lord and Christ were necessary for salvation; and Paul taught that salvation is by grace through faith plus nothing else. Peter's salvation message appears to be conditional and involves faith and works, while Paul's salvation message seems to be unconditional and involves faith alone. Can somebody reconcile these differences in their salvation messages? Thank you.
If there are any differences between what the apostles said, they can be reconciled very easily by what Jesus/God said.
Jesus forgave the adulteress in scripture below:
John 8:11
"She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more."
Jesus forgave the adulteress and asked her to TAKE ACTION - GO AND SIN NO MORE. If only grace and faith are needed - why would Jesus instruct the sinner to SIN NO MORE?
Jesus also instructs us to follow the commandments(10 Commandments)
John 14:15
"If ye love me, keep my commandments."
In order to keep the commandments it is necessary to take ACTION.
Many Christians today want to take the "easy way" by professing only "Grace and Faith"..and this way of thinking is not in accordance with what Jesus taught.
Brother Dan I'm a great believer in Grace and Faith But, in action its still summed up in Thou shalt love Lord thy God with all your heart soul mind and strength on these hang all the law and the prophets. So we are saved by grace but if you don't put on the word in the renewed mind Romans 12:2 which is our work or reasonable service than you will not produce the fruits of righteousness. Faith without works is indeed dead. But there's a big difference between work by inspiration and work by perspiration. First one is by faith our spiritual man second one is works natural man 2 Corinthians 10: 4+5 the battle field is the mind. In His Service
I like that phrase you used, "Work by inspiration and works by perspiration." That makes a lot of sense when we understand the literal definition of the word faith, which is persuasion. Any work that we do in the flesh (Human work), apart from the persuasion of God's Spirit leading us to do the work, He will not bless that.
The only thing flesh can produce is flesh. Our flesh cannot produce anything spiritual. My personal definition of the word faith would be the presence and activity of God's Spirit in a believer's life. Faith is a fruit of God's Spirit.
When His Spirit persuades us to do the work, that's called faith. Everything else is just human effort/human work, even if we claim to be doing it for the Lord. If He's not in it, if He's not the one giving us the faith (Persuasion) to do it, our labor is in vain.
And amen to the battle taking place in the mind! Paul fought for the believers mind. There is a special word used throughout the Greek New Testament, and it is the word MERIMNA which has to do with anything that occupies the attention of our minds. Satan uses everything in his power to keep us busy, and keep us distracted. He keeps our minds occupied (MERIMNA) so we won't have time to study the word.
Once we are saved, Satan knows he has lost us forever to Christ. He can't touch our spirit/our soul, because in order to do that, he would have to penetrate God's Spirit in us, and that's never going to happen. So the only weapon Satan has against a believer is to occupy the attention of our minds. He pursues us/chases us (DIOKO) and tries to wear us down in order to get us to give up. But as long as we have Christ in us, Satan will never succeed. And Jesus has promised to never leave us!
Jesse Just an interesting thing to know Russians had some Christians behind bars and tried to brainwash them and couldn't do it, also there was a russian mathematician who was a so called absolute atheist who decided to set out to prove the bible was mathematically imperfect. Three years later he was born again its amazing what happens when you work the Word Of God. In His Service
Hi Jesse The only point I understand differently is I don't see in scripture spirit of God being the soul of man, I see in scripture God created man after His Image which is spirit John 4:24 and that's what he lost in genesis, His spiritual connection after that he still had life [soul life breathe life] and a body which is what kept him alive but no connection to God. Also throughout old testament men had this spirit of God upon them but not in them, which is why David told God take not thy Holy Spirit from me. At pentecost it was given internally not to be lost hence born again rebirth By God through Believing in what Jesus Christ made available. I can give many more scripture references on this topic. If not okay God Bless In His Service
Yes, Faith is the starting place, followed by action/change, and then this will result in Grace from God! We will not get the Grace if we do not change our lives and walk in Christ. Many christians profess "Faith and Grace" but take "no action" to change their behavior nor do they walk in Christ and strive to keep his commandments.
Matthew 7:22
"Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?"
Matthew 7:23
"And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."
Hi Dan Brother believing is the starting place because without believing Romans 10:9+10 you cannot receive the faith of Jesus Christ to have the ability to walk in the grace. Many take no action because they never really believed better known as lip service or not believing in their HEART. Those can't change because they never really believed. The sadducees and pharisees were masters at having head knowledge of scripture but in their hearts far from God. Jesus Christ pointed that out several times, I believe he said ye HYPOCRITE. Nothing changes just different apparel, but by there fruits ye shall know them. In His Service
I don't think you understand, Dan. When Jesus walked the earth, He preached and taught the kingdom of heaven is at hand, i.e., the kingdom gospel. He commissioned His 12 apostles to preach and teach the same gospel. When Jesus ascended into Heaven, the risen Lord commissioned Paul to preach the Mystery of Christ, which is the body of Christ and the Gospel of Grace through faith to the Gentiles. Paul writes in Ephesians 2:8-9, "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:Not of works, lest any man should boast." Therefore, salvation is by God's grace through the faith of Christ, which is a gift of God. Paul's gospel to the Gentiles had nothing to do with keeping the commandments or the Law of Moses. The truth is in the Scripture, but to find it, you need to study the Scripture and rightly divide it. Peace.
The Holy Bible and God's Word is not a puzzle as some would like others to believe. The simple, the meek, the humble, and the children will inherit God's Kingdom. With that said, we don't have to get a PhD in theology to understand God's Word because if we are sincere, and humble, LIKE CHILDREN, God's Holy Sprit will teach us THE TRUTH.
Again, the scripture spoken by Jesus is very simple to understand and sums it all up:
John 14:15
"If ye love me, keep my commandments."
Jesus said the commandments (Law) will last until heaven and earth pass/end. Heaven and earth have not passed YET, so the law is still in place!
Matthew 5:18
"For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."
The apostles did strive to keep the commandments, please see scripture below:
1 John 2:3
"And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments."
If we let others lead us away from the TRUTH with the "popular faith and grace argument" we are blinded to the THRUTH!
Mark 7:9
"And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition."
So in summary, we can keep God's commandments and walk in his ways, or follow your own man made tradition, as stated above in Mark7:9
Jesus, Israel's Messiah, was sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel, not to the Gentiles. "But he [Jesus] answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel." Matthew 15:24 Jesus commanded His apostles to go only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel with the gospel of the kingdom and not to the Samaritans or the Gentiles. "These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand. Matthew 10:5-7. When Jesus was on earth, Paul says that He ministered to the circumcision, the Jews, and not to the Samaritans or to the Gentiles. "Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers:" Romans 15:8. You are mixing Paul's gospel of grace through faith with the gospel of the kingdom that Jesus and the twelve ministered to the circumcision.
This was the same problem that Paul addressed before the counsel in Jerusalem ( Acts 15) and in his letter to the Galatians. Paul said that if anybody, including angels, preached a gospel different from the gospel that he taught the Galatians, which is the gospel of grace through faith, let him be accursed, i.e., excommunicated from the faithful in the church.
Finally, Christians should heed Miles Coverdale's advice when studying Scripture:
"It shall greatly help ye to understand the Scriptures if thou mark not only what is spoken or written, but of whom and to whom, with what words, at what time, where, to what intent, with what circumstances, considering what goeth before and what followeth after."
May the Lord Jesus Christ grant you mercy and renew your mind so that you can accept reproof, correction, and instruction in righteousness. Amen.
IMKane Peter was still caught up in works of the Judean Law, Paul knew the walk by the spirit went above and beyond works of the Flesh. Walking by the spirit is not doing because you have to its doing because of the Love God gave us through the faith of Jesus Christ Galatians 3:22-28 we want to. The one is action out of works, the other is believing in the grace and action by walking by the spirit. One is perspiration the other is inspiration. In His Service
Paul said that when he was with the Jews, he was a Jew, and when he was with the Gentiles, he was a Gentile that he might gain them both. Paul shaved his head and agreed to go through the Temple ceremony with four men to prove to the Messianic Jews at Jerusalem that he was a Jew and still held the Laws of Moses. Paul also circumcised Timothy at the behest of Messianic Jews who demanded that Timothy be circumcised because his father was a Greek, but his mother was a Jew, thus making him a Jew. You don't know what you don't know, my friend. Don't just read Scripture, study it. Use a King James Bible (1769) and a Webster's 1828 dictionary for the definitions of the English words. And stay away from the Greek and Hebrew lexicons. Trust God that He used the KJV translators to preserve his written word, and those 47 men provided an infallible, inerrant translation of the Greek and Hebrew. Peace.
I use the 1769 version instead of the 1611 version for the following reasons:
1. the 1769 version changed the font from gothic to roman making it easier to read.
2. the 1769 version corrected the 400 printing press errors in 1611.
3. the 1769 version updated the spelling of some words for standardization because the 1611 had used alternate spellings to help space the words and align verses in columns.
4. the 1769 version added italicized words to distinguish those words that were added by the translators to supply context to the sentences from the words that were inspired of God.
5. the 1769 version removed the seven uninspired Apocrypha books that were between the Old Testament and the New Testament in the 1611 version.
Jesus forgave the adulteress in scripture below:
John 8:11
"She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more."
Jesus forgave the adulteress and asked her to TAKE ACTION - GO AND SIN NO MORE. If only grace and faith are needed - why would Jesus instruct the sinner to SIN NO MORE?
Jesus also instructs us to follow the commandments(10 Commandments)
John 14:15
"If ye love me, keep my commandments."
In order to keep the commandments it is necessary to take ACTION.
Many Christians today want to take the "easy way" by professing only "Grace and Faith"..and this way of thinking is not in accordance with what Jesus taught.
God Bless
I like that phrase you used, "Work by inspiration and works by perspiration." That makes a lot of sense when we understand the literal definition of the word faith, which is persuasion. Any work that we do in the flesh (Human work), apart from the persuasion of God's Spirit leading us to do the work, He will not bless that.
The only thing flesh can produce is flesh. Our flesh cannot produce anything spiritual. My personal definition of the word faith would be the presence and activity of God's Spirit in a believer's life. Faith is a fruit of God's Spirit.
When His Spirit persuades us to do the work, that's called faith. Everything else is just human effort/human work, even if we claim to be doing it for the Lord. If He's not in it, if He's not the one giving us the faith (Persuasion) to do it, our labor is in vain.
And amen to the battle taking place in the mind! Paul fought for the believers mind. There is a special word used throughout the Greek New Testament, and it is the word MERIMNA which has to do with anything that occupies the attention of our minds. Satan uses everything in his power to keep us busy, and keep us distracted. He keeps our minds occupied (MERIMNA) so we won't have time to study the word.
Once we are saved, Satan knows he has lost us forever to Christ. He can't touch our spirit/our soul, because in order to do that, he would have to penetrate God's Spirit in us, and that's never going to happen. So the only weapon Satan has against a believer is to occupy the attention of our minds. He pursues us/chases us (DIOKO) and tries to wear us down in order to get us to give up. But as long as we have Christ in us, Satan will never succeed. And Jesus has promised to never leave us!
Yes, Faith is the starting place, followed by action/change, and then this will result in Grace from God! We will not get the Grace if we do not change our lives and walk in Christ. Many christians profess "Faith and Grace" but take "no action" to change their behavior nor do they walk in Christ and strive to keep his commandments.
Matthew 7:22
"Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?"
Matthew 7:23
"And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."
Peace and God Bless.
The Holy Bible and God's Word is not a puzzle as some would like others to believe. The simple, the meek, the humble, and the children will inherit God's Kingdom. With that said, we don't have to get a PhD in theology to understand God's Word because if we are sincere, and humble, LIKE CHILDREN, God's Holy Sprit will teach us THE TRUTH.
Again, the scripture spoken by Jesus is very simple to understand and sums it all up:
John 14:15
"If ye love me, keep my commandments."
Jesus said the commandments (Law) will last until heaven and earth pass/end. Heaven and earth have not passed YET, so the law is still in place!
Matthew 5:18
"For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."
The apostles did strive to keep the commandments, please see scripture below:
1 John 2:3
"And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments."
If we let others lead us away from the TRUTH with the "popular faith and grace argument" we are blinded to the THRUTH!
Mark 7:9
"And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition."
So in summary, we can keep God's commandments and walk in his ways, or follow your own man made tradition, as stated above in Mark7:9
God Bless
This was the same problem that Paul addressed before the counsel in Jerusalem ( Acts 15) and in his letter to the Galatians. Paul said that if anybody, including angels, preached a gospel different from the gospel that he taught the Galatians, which is the gospel of grace through faith, let him be accursed, i.e., excommunicated from the faithful in the church.
Finally, Christians should heed Miles Coverdale's advice when studying Scripture:
"It shall greatly help ye to understand the Scriptures if thou mark not only what is spoken or written, but of whom and to whom, with what words, at what time, where, to what intent, with what circumstances, considering what goeth before and what followeth after."
May the Lord Jesus Christ grant you mercy and renew your mind so that you can accept reproof, correction, and instruction in righteousness. Amen.
1. the 1769 version changed the font from gothic to roman making it easier to read.
2. the 1769 version corrected the 400 printing press errors in 1611.
3. the 1769 version updated the spelling of some words for standardization because the 1611 had used alternate spellings to help space the words and align verses in columns.
4. the 1769 version added italicized words to distinguish those words that were added by the translators to supply context to the sentences from the words that were inspired of God.
5. the 1769 version removed the seven uninspired Apocrypha books that were between the Old Testament and the New Testament in the 1611 version.
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