Bible Discussion Thread

It just confuses some people to view 5 different interpretations of PRE-RAPTURE, MID-TRIB RAPTURE, OR AFTER TRIB RAPTURE.

Think about it. When you were a newborn Christian, would you have been able to understand it? Honestly.

I don't think people should worry, or delay being saved because there's yet some time in which to sin.?

My evangelist heart cannot think that way. Guess I'm not a gambler. However, just moments before I was saved, lucky me, was given a vision of hell!!! I don't reccomend that there's any way that Hollywood could make it desirable

Why in thunder and lightning, is timing important??? Jesus could return this October; Or some other month. Predjudice is unlike Jesus.

Hello, the end times sequence is not a salvation issue. I do not believe Christians should argue over future events, much of which is unknown and left a mystery on purpose (in my opinion).

Regarding the end times, the Bible just says we are to be prepared. And what does being 'prepared' mean? That is what we should focus our energy on.

Precious friend, agree, Yes, VERY Confusing, Especially for new-born babes In CHRIST, who are Still Throughly Confused about the "milk" Of God's Word = baptisms, tongues, signs, etc.

Will they not "choke" on the MEAT of end-times eschatology?

How is it possible that Jesus returns before anti-christ completes his 42 months of rule, between the 6th & 7th trumpets? Unless you are talking about 6th trumpet Jesus, who 'comes like a thief' to install the abomination of desolation on the whole house of Israel, you are mistaken. God comes with anti-christ's army ( Ezekiel 38:4) to destroy Babylon and put the world in great tribulation.

The Jesus you are looking for is the 7th trumpet Jesus, standing on the hill with His 144 thousand saints. I have been telling you this for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, but you refuse to take instruction. Study the 6th trumpet, day of the Lord ( Isaiah 13, Isaiah 47, Joel 2:1-11, Revelation 18) as we are approaching our visitation.

I'm not refusing anything. Jesus doesn't know the time of the end. Only the Father knows.

I'm a street preacher. I just get people ready to go__period.

I watch for the signs, that happen on this earth; in these political systems; plagues and pandemics on all continents; changes in money systems.

Advancements or increased "labor pains". We all have our part to doas the BODY OF CHRIST.

I think Matthew 16:1-4; 12:39-42; Jonah 3:1-4

We are all parts of the Body of Christ, but each body part is not identical. The Holy Spirit gives as He wills.

Not everyone that comes in here can understand the book of Revelation. It corresponds to other events on earth, and in the heavens.

Like right now the Arab kingdoms are uniting; and with China and Russia.

MATTHEW 24:42-51 sign of Noah

MATTHEW 25: 1-13 the 10 Virgins

I do not believe that Jesus will suffer His Bride to be killed. I believe we will see the beginning of the Trib. and warn people. A great harvest. I think Noah labored on the Ark 6 days a week and preached in the city. When the Ark was ready, GOD SHUT THE DOOR. The door was massive and had to be secured outside.

Can any of us conquer the fear of man, and get this message we know so well, and preach so well here, and take it to people who are perishing, "out there".

People watch the news every day (YouTube or tv) so there is an awareness of the signs. We just need to open up WHERE this is all leading to. All this global warming hype from the Government, IS 2 PETER 3:10-12. The earth is warming, and we are being warned. Isaiah 51:6

You do your task, and I am doing mine. I'm looking up every day and night for Jesus's appearing in the clouds. I'm going with Him no matter what: pre, mid, whenever it happens. I want to be doing what He asks: harvesting, doing good. Matthew 25: 31-46

In the spirit of love, Mishael

True ,.. We know not the time ,.. but we do know the season,.. locusts,.. may threw September

You might enjoy a visit to GEVTE.

This guy is a mathematician that is able to recall cosmic events and match them to prophesy. It makes you want to write some of this down and check it out.

Write me back and tell me what you think? He makes predictions and I'm not sure anyone should do that.

I'm still looking at what Charles Capps teaches of how Jesus became the son of Man. He took back the Authority Adam lost to Satan.

Abraham's obedience and trust, when he almost sacrificed his son; God instead provided a ram.

Legally, this made it possible for Jesus to be born into the earth; the Son of man. FULLY HUMAN and fully the Son of God.

Hebrews 10:5

Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, BUT A BODY hast thou prepared me:

Luke 2

29 Lord, now lettest thou thy servant depart in peace, according to thy word:

30 For mine eyes have seen thy salvation,

31 Which Thou Hast Prepared before the face of ALL PEOPLE

32 A light to light to the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel.

This passage in Luke always stumped me. It's a prophesy spoken at Jesus's circumcision.

Jesus had to be human to give His Life for all humankind on the Cross. Satan didn't know or he'd have tried to stop it. Satan is a created being. He is not human. He has to borrow a body to manifest. He'll enter the Antichrists body. [antichrist; 2nd beast; false prophet]

Knowing the legalities of this; coupled with the DOMINION God gave to First Adam: Jesus holds ALL AUTHORITY. He gives BELIEVERS IN HIM,

Authority to defeat Satan, IN JESUS NAME.

We have Dominion PLUS Authority to cast Satan and his demons, out of ours and others lives. When Jesus said "LEAVE", they left. We can do that IN JESUS NAME.

Our complacency and unbelief makes us victims of outlaw, illegal spirits. They borrow any kind of body or they are INVISIBLE. Ephesians 6.

Jesus wants us to live as kings and priests; not bleating little lambs.

What more of a sign do the unbelievers need to be given to see prophesy unfold? You recognize the grizzle, but not the steak: 9-11-01 was the 5th trumpet, showcased in Revelation 9:1-11. It's obvious why are leaders chose that date, the same date Jews remember the destruction of both temples (Tisha b'Av), the assumed date of Jesus' birth. What else could it have been but the beginning of sorrows? The description of the war on terror takes us up to this very day, to the tail end of the 5th trumpet.....so how could you overlook such a catastrophic event that has dramatically changed our world? How can you deny the 5th trumpet order when it has been painfully played out over the past 20 years?

We are currently staring down the 6th seal ( Revelation 6:12-14) leading us into the day of the Lord, 6th trumpet when 1/3rd of the population dies from anti-christ's global attack.

Jesus' return at the time of the end is at the 7th trumpet, approximately 42 month after the 6th trumpet (anti-christ's rule). Jesus, with a new name, soundly defeats anti-christ ( Revelation 11:15).

The Bible has an order of prophetic events that unfold in their given time. If you are looking for Jesus Christ to show Himself in the clouds before prophesy is fulfilled, you are doing yourself and the Word a great disservice. How is it possible for 7th trumpet Jesus (Messiah) to show up before 6th trumpet Jesus (who comes like a thief to lay the land desolate)? Everything you profess has to fit in these established parameters, or you are preaching you own will. If you learn the last 3 trumpets, know where events fit in, you will begin to understand the order of the revelation of Jesus Christ.

5th trump started, in 1948 when Israel became a nation again after 2000 years,.. that started what we learn in Jeremiah as the generation of the fig tree , where all prophesy will be fulfilled,.. an it's also a time for teaching, especially for Gods elect ,.. now we know no the day , but we do know the season, locust,.. May threw September,.. 2nd Thessalonians chapter 2 ,.. then we do what mark 13 states ,.. it's also backed in Luke 21 , an Matthew 24 ,.. as to handle the coming of the anti-Christ ,.. remember Daniel states he comes in peace an prosperity,.. an also gives lite to Jesus coming as a thief in the night, for most will be deceived thinking Jesus is already here ,..

peace

You know a generation is roughly 22-33 years, or even a Biblical 40 years in the desert. So 1948 doesn't add up to the 5th trumpet description of war. No doubt WWI & WWII were both for the benefit of Israel, but 9/11 significantly stands alone.

The exact time anti-christ strikes is given ( Jeremiah 15:7). He is the spoiler at NOONDAY, 3 pm, the falling away when Babylon is taken with violence. In the self-same hour, Israel is taken under the cover of darkness, 11 pm local, following the ( Revelation 6:12) earthquake ( Luke 21:20-24). You got the season right, before the harvest.

You are better off discovering these truth on your own, not through worn out published theories. The truth is within you.

I can see the day coming when the US govt's gonna be against the law. Jeremiah saw it too.

Jeremiah 15:7 I WILL DESTROY MY PEOPLE, since they return not from their ways.

Jeremiah 15:8 God confirms the time of anti-christ surprise strike at noonday, 3 pm EST.

Jeremiah 15:9 (America's) sun is gone down while it was yet day. (within 1 hour she falls).

Jeremiah 15:12 Shall iron break the northern iron and the steel? (king of the north, Daniel 11:40, has God on his side)

Jeremiah 15:5 (In the same hour America falls, Israel is sacked) For who shall have pity upon thee, O Jerusalem? or who shall bemoan thee? or who shall go aside to ask how thou doest?

The government has been against God, before they they came to this continent. Love works no ill to people has been work ill to whoever, doing what Jesus alone does to people. The Anti Christ has been in the church. That anti - Christ brought money, or Mammon. Satan is the anti Christ. The Anti Christ lies as to what Satan looks like. The Catholic church lies. Satan is not red. Satan is a colorful being. That being has gold on that beings body. Islam lies about what Satan looks like. There are no one eyed anything on the earth. That is a fact. That is not hate. Muslims Satan is said to be black having one eye. That is a lie. God would have made one eyed whatever. That does not exist. Muslims Allah is fibbing. That is not hate. That is the truth.

Don't look for dates. Faithless devils who want money that is seen through us, want to believe a lie. Those days will be shortened for the elects sake. Jesus who has great peace in him, not being offended by the nude form needs to be in our mind. That mind will not be offended when seeing sex of whatever kind. Christ looks for himself in others, in what he will say, and what he will do, praising them. That does not condemn anyone. Condemn, be condemed, for doing the same things.

Anti-christ's devices at the 6th trumpet will knock the earth off its axis causing heavenly bodies to falter ( Isaiah 24:20). There will still be 24 hour days, but the sun and stars will not give their light for 1/3rd of the day. The elect use this cover of darkness as protection.

That my fren , is already done , our Father did that , when he completely destroyed the first earth age , upon Lucifers down fall , ( pride ) an his deceiving a third of our brothers an sisters, an instead of killing Lucifer an a third of his children, he destroyed the age , an brought about this age ,. For us to be born from above threw water an into flesh to decide for ourselves if we live God , or Lucifer,.. all will come threw this age in flesh , one time ,.. an when all souls are done, this will bring about the end of this age, start the day of the Lord , the millennium, an teaching,.. for during that day , Lucifer will be cast into a pit , with no ability to deceive, but those who were deceived prior, will be tested at the end , before judgement an the lake of fire ,.

Glenn,

I read what you said again, at least 6 times. I'm glad I didn't skip over it. You wrote the most beautiful description I've ever read. Mysticism of the ages set in poetry ( 2 Peter 3:8). However, the 'day of the Lord' begins at the sixth trumpet, not the seventh. Thanks for the vision.

It happens again, that's prophesy in wait. It's the day of the Lord, if you don't know. This world is gonna get what is deserves, knocked off its axis, never to rise again. Somebody get me a new earth and new heaven, pronto.

It's been changed to a 5 month period,.. 2. , 2 an half months segments, or no souls would be saved ,.. an sense the anti- Christ comes first , an absolutely deceives many , that's how Jesus comes as a thief in the night, for most will already think he's here