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  • Theresa on Isaiah 46 - 3 years ago
    My comment is partly a question. Isaiah 46:10 - 12

    Indeed God loves all the people he created out of his image by sending his son Jesus Christ. Even though there is a condition to it, which is to accept his son as Lord and savior. John 3:16

    My question is that, does these verses in lsaiah 46:10 and 12 fulfilling the end times to our generation because sin has gone beyond man's understanding and what is verse eleven teaching us about the ravenous bird that will occur from the east ( some versions describes as 'far' east), to which God will permit to happen in this generation.

    Bible commentors l need your comment on this.

    I will appreciate you.

    Thanks
  • William - In Reply on Isaiah 46 - 3 years ago
    This reveals shared anti-christ traits, his many descriptions, here a ravenous bird from the east that executes God's will. It is all connected, even in small ways. God holds the right hand of Cyrus, sanctified in him to do God's will, like anti-christ.

    Below you can see the similarity, the order, God is one with anti-christ (like Cyrus) in battle, and is delighted with His army that's about to destroy Babylon. God even calls anti-christ's army "His sanctified ones" (like Cyrus). This theme mirrors many other accounts, for example:

    ( Isaiah 13:1-7) specifically vs 5:

    1 The burden of Babylon, which Isaiah the son of Amoz did see.

    2 Lift ye up a banner upon the high mountain, exalt the voice unto them, shake the hand, that they may go into the gates of the nobles.

    3 I have commanded my sanctified ones, I have also called my mighty ones for mine anger, even them that rejoice in my highness.

    4 The noise of a multitude in the mountains, like as of a great people; a tumultuous noise of the kingdoms of nations gathered together: the LORD of hosts mustereth the host of the battle.

    5 They come from a far country, from the end of heaven, even the LORD, and the weapons of his indignation, to destroy the whole land.

    6 Howl ye; for the day of the LORD is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty.

    7 Therefore shall all hands be faint, and every man's heart shall melt:
  • Theresa - In Reply on Isaiah 46 - 3 years ago
    Thanks William, good bless you . Your comment is vital and teachable.
  • Messenger - In Reply on Isaiah 46 - 3 years ago
    Yes, Jehovah ( psalm 83:18) prophesied or was revealing to Isaiah about Cyrus ( Isaiah 44:28)

    he (King of Persia) helped rebuild Jerusalem ( Daniel 10:1). yes, if a prophecy hasn't yet happened... it will happen; and it will be fulfilled and accomplished. ( Isaiah 46:10,11)

    Fulfilled Prophecy:

    Destruction of Jerusalem 70 c.e ( Luke 21:5,6; John 4:21)

    Unfulfilled Prophecy:

    Revelation 18&20 ( 1John 5:19; Revelation 12:7-12)

    Revelation 21:3-4

    Revelation 22 ( Matthew 24:14; Daniel 2:44)

    Hope this helps
  • Theresa - In Reply on Isaiah 46 - 3 years ago
    l have learnt a lot, God bless you, your thoughts in this chapter will teach many more.
  • Messenger - In Reply on Isaiah 46 - 3 years ago
    I'm happy You Enjoy reading the bible as while as I do.

    The word is From God. I Appreciate it!

    ( 2 Timothy 3:16,17)
  • Artie whitefox - In Reply on Isaiah 46 - 3 years ago
    No. the one hundred and forty four thousand represents the 12 tribes of Israel. 2 Peter 3:9 KJV The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. That will be a lot more that one hundred and fourth four thousand people.
  • Ronald L Whittemore - In Reply on Isaiah 46 - 3 years ago
    Hey Theresa,

    This is not about the end times; this was during their captivity in Babylon. They were making idols and worshiping them and they were loading down the wagons with so much gold, and silver it was putting a burden on the animals. God through Isaiah was telling them how useless and regardless of how many idols they made would not deliver them from the burden of captivity.

    In verse 9 God is telling them to remember the things of old, He is reminding them how He was who brought them out of Egypt. Telling them "I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me".

    Verse 10, there have been prophecies given in ancient time that have been fulfilled but a few have not but, we can see the prophecies that have been fulfilled gives us total assurance the ones that have not been fulfilled will be, "My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:"

    Verse 11 ravenous bird, this bird is King Cyrus, who was named long before he was born and prophesied through Jerimiah, that we see come to be in Ezra1:1 King Cyrus was God's servant that freed them to return to Jerusalem and rebuild the temple. "that the word of the LORD by the mouth of Jeremiah might be fulfilled". The emblem of King Cyrus was a Golden Eagle.

    And what God says we can have total faith will be done, "I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it". Verses 12and 13 are kind of where we are today. Those who are not born again need to repent and accept Jesus, for the righteousness that is in Jesus our savior is near, and the end time appears to be close.

    This is short but I hope it helps,

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Smith - In Reply on Isaiah 46 - 3 years ago
    You can't see the connection besides the obvious, that both Cyrus and anti-christ destroy Babylon? You can't see similarities between the attacks? Much of what God proclaims of Cyrus can be found in anti-christ.

    Anti-christ posses every characteristic that previous empires boasted, to include Persia. ( Daniel 7)

    The references are short and subtle here, but none the less, the association is evident. Don't sell yourself short on the depth of richness offered by the prophets.

    Isaiah 46:11 Calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man that executeth my counsel FROM A FAR COUNTRY: yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it.

    Isaiah 13:5 They come FROM A FAR COUNTRY, from the end of heaven, even the LORD, and the weapons of his indignation, to destroy the whole land.
  • Ronald L Whittemore - In Reply on Isaiah 46 - 3 years ago
    Hey Smith,

    I gave my understanding of these verses; we can see a similarity in scripture throughout the Bible but the context of the chapter or chapters helps understanding. If you feel this is about end time that is ok. Cyrus did defeat Babylon but God called him His servant that would free God's people, end their punishment of 70 years, and help them rebuild the temple.

    Have a great day,

    RLW



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