Bible Discussion Thread

Hi, I run a ministry online that defends literal creation aka YEC. Probably the biggest misunderstanding about creation is the form and void aka the supposed condition of the earth. What if I told you that the form and void issue had zero to do with the condition of the earth?

There are 3 ways God created aka a trinity.

1) Spoken word creation, where God speaks and things appear or happen.

2) Bring forth creation. Where God commands what already has been created to bring forth more life.

3) Formed creation. Man was the only life formed by God and the breathe of life made man a living souls.

So when the Bible says the earth was without form (man) and was void (empty until man was created). God was stating the whole purpose of creation, not the condition of the earth. Forwhy create anything without form?

Gen 1:2 says the earth was without form, and void. You're here saying it has nothing to do with the earth. But the verse specifically says it's the earth. What's wrong with believing what the Bible says? There's no conflict, no misunderstanding on my end. But someone saying it doesn't mean what it says makes me suspicious.

Okay, I understand. This is a Old Earth Creation site. Anything proving YEC gets deleted. Which means any discussion here is 100% one sided. So Matt can look right and me wrong because I cannot answer with good answers without it being deleted. I read your rules, and I did not break ant worse then Matt did. Which makes me think Matts the mod here. Am I right?

If this forum like area is where people truly search for truth. Then you allow even what you disagree with so it can be worked out. I have no problem with *biblical correction*. I actually like biblical correction using the kjv only. But deleting people's responses because you disagree with their viewpoint proves nothing.

In fact I challenge you to prove me wrong using the Bible. And because I like truth more than looking right all the time, I have no problem admitting it and apologizing if I am wrong. Because to find truth, real truth, you have to swallow your pride and become humble enough to admit being wrong and accept correction. Deleting responses is telling me that you think you are always right, and correction cannot be warranted. And anyone who dares to disagree is wrong. right?

Did I not use the Bible to prove what I said? Did you not ignore what I said and when I pointed that out deleted it? Prove me wrong on anything I have posted and I have zero problem making a public apology. Could you do that? Then the truth you are looking for you'll never find if you cannot.

If you want to believe in Old Earth Creation, and the Evolution deep timeline that makes OEC work. Then believing this refers to the *condition* of the earth is what you have to stick to. And the reason I say this is because you totally ignored what I said. That Form was referring to man, and the earth was void aka empty until man was created.

Isaac I've read what you stated the only comment I have is you've made up your mind on how you interpret what you read. That being said no matter what anyone else shares you'll be able to disprove it no matter what your shown. There's an old saying a man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.

If you want every one to have some idea what you are talking about please explain YEC and OEC , or don't use those terms and type out exactly what you mean please , thank you .