Bible Discussion Thread

 
  • LARRY LAKE on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    So are we pre tribe or post tribe????
  • Sam - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Get a bunch of false prophets together and anything is not too far out !
  • How Close We Could Be to THE CAUGHT UP - In Reply on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    I saw a really good teaching by: ROCK ISLAND BOOKS; on YouTube; TITLED: END TIMES - DANIEL UNSEALED. Its a lot of math and Scripture.

    As in the days of Daniels lifetime. The math begins in book of Numbers & Exodus. Included is all the times Israel sinned as a nation; God reset the clock. Clock resetting happened when Israel sinned.

    Now in the past when anyone tries to set a date, it doesn't fly. In Jewish Weddings when the couples house is ready to be lived in, the Father tells the Groom to go get his Bride.

    More often I favor the Ten Virgins Parable. Matthew 25. Not everyone is a math+prophesy genius. Jesus didn't set a date, and neither do I. He said to be ready to meet the Bridegroom As in a Jewish Wedding. I keep that in mind.

    Some of the virgins were not ready and were Left Behind.

    I'm more of a sign watcher. I don't have anyone distracting me except a bossy cat and 2 birds. :/

    I read tons of stuff. The Holy Spirit leads me to incredible facts. Like, Covid originated in China, Africa and the eastern Mideast. The National colors of China are mentioned in the Bible. History shows origins of every past pandemic/pestilence. Africa is over-run with locust swarms that eat the crops they desperately need. And it's spreading into the Mideast. Most countries don't help with $$ to spray the pests.

    Our Government is not helping Israel as in the past. God blesses the nations that bless Israel. They've requested help to keep the Iron Dome armed. Looks like Congress is acting dazed and confused. As a result, our nation is experiencing the curses in Leviticus. Such as, OUR ENEMIES WILL BREACH OUR BORDERS. We got that: China, all of South America, Mexico, Haiti and Palestinians.

    The New Madrid fault zone (USA) is having tremors.

    Jesus could return this year.
  • Ronald L Whittemore - In Reply on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    How Close,

    Please don't take this as against you, I just thought you may want to test the waters and this is in love. I watched the video you posted, very interesting, I loved the art work it made his presentation. It was very well put together, using math along with scripture tells the story, but you may want to check out some of his math.

    I will make it short and only point out a few things and again this is not to start a debate on this and it is not directed towards you but just point out things for truth in his video. First if Jesus was crucified on a Wednesday the next day is the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread a Sabbath, and Friday the women could have gone to the tomb.

    If you take a date like 1948 and multiply it by a number and divide the answer by the same number it will come out the same number. 1948x20=38960 divided by 20=1948. The year 1948 is derived by 365.24-day years not 360-day years. Take the 70 weeks, if we use prophetic years, 70 x 7 = 490 x 360 =176400 days divided by 365.24 = 483 years not 490 years for the 70 weeks.

    If we take 457 B.C. as a start day adding 69 prophetic weeks it would be 69 x 7 = 483 years x 360 = 173880 days divided by 365.24 = 476.07 prophetic years. Dates each year is derived by 365.24 days each year. 457 B.C. + 476.07 years = 16 A.D. not 24 A.D. when Jesus first came, you have to substract 1 for not 0 year.

    We see in ( Nehemiah 2:1-8) it was in the month of Nisan not Tishri.

    Regardless of what date Jesus first came, it was 69 weeks from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah, ( Daniel 9:25) and He was to be cut off after 69 weeks ( Daniel 9:26) He was here 3.5 years of the 70th week before He was crucified.

    This may not make since but I hope you can make since of it.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Mishael - In Reply on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    I lived in Tulsa a few years. I learned setting dates can be disastrous to people's faith.

    I keep track of what happens in divers places.

    Freedom, loss of freedom, fears, weather, disasters, bad people get badder; unusual allegations.

    I find the mathematic presentation compelling, but I truly believe we need to do what Jesus told us to do. Be aware of signs of the times. Be watching, looking up. Let go of tedious, spirit of exhausting busyness. Don't be polluted by the world views. Complaining. Moses's group continually complained and never saw freedom.

    I think my generation (I'm 70) are tasked with focusing on faith in what Jesus says and to keep our younger generation built up on strengths and refuse the sensuality of the world. I plant seeds into anyone who will listen for 5 minutes. They need encouragement. To be edified instead of shredded by people who have lost hope already.

    TV has a deadly message of sensuality, greed, consumerism.

    I'm preaching to the children that followed Joshua and CalebI guess.

    I was aware of God at 5, in a very real way. He shorted me how things work, how they get broke. He gave me a wise Dad who showed me how to fix broke things, self-motivation, drive that carried me through life. I never agreed with the direction the world was going.

    My life went in a bad direction because of the ancestral sin of occult. And then in my 34th year Jesus appeared to me in my living room, in a vision. My life BEGAN that day. Acts 19:19 on the 2nd day. I never looked back. We are either following Jesus, or the World. I never re-married.

    I was in street ministry much of my life. I still am.

    We are all in a new season. God is trying to get our eyes back on just Him. The world has nothing worth missing the Caught Up for. Gotta grab onto the Lord because He'll be moving real fast.

    Watch the signs of our Times. No doomsday prepping needed. Hang onto the Holy Spirit.

    Thank you for your comment.
  • Ronald L Whittemore - In Reply on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    Hey Mishael,

    We are of the same generation I'm seventy-one, and I agree with you about dates, only the Father knows. I read most of your posts, and the only reason I replied was the video, you said it was really good teaching, sorry, numbers do not post too well on this site.

    If you look closely at that video it is like watching a magician, full of misdirection. Using prophetic days and years with 365-day years, throwing in 1948 using ( Ezekiel 37:3), which turns on a light bulb to people, "Hey this must be true that's when Israel became a nation again". There is a lot more I could say, it is easy to pick a verse out of context, and paint a beautiful, believable picture of falsehood about end times and other teachings that are out there today, and so many are looking and believing in false things.

    I too went to church early in life and later caught up in the world. In my late forties, my wife and I were in Mexico, and my wife was attacked by a demonic being. We went through over two years of unbelievable things. My wife was in the hospital and I went by my parents' house and I picked up our family Bible and a poem that my grandfather had written fell out in my lap. I read it and I felt a overcoming light fill me, I have been reading my Bible ever since.

    My eyes were opened fast too, Ephesians.6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Oh, by the way, some have physical bodies.

    My marriage did not make it, just me and Jesus now, never to remarry with no children. At our age we have seen many changes, church buildings, people think of as the Church, not them. The world swallowing people up and the speed it is happening is frightening, ( 2 Timothy 3: 1-7)

    You can feel the love in your words.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Satan Fights Dirty__Learn How To Fight Back - In Reply on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    I'm preaching a little here

    People need to know we all have to stay prayed up against spiritual attacks. I almost had my neck broke by one. And then it was pulled off of me by an angel. I didn't see it, but I heard body blows out in the yard outside my open window.

    It happened when I came home from church and found my tarot card carrying aunt trying to tell my mother the Roswell incident was real. I looked my aunt in the eyes and said, SELLS LOTS OF BOOKS DOESN'T IT? She did the eye thing too and said, IT SURE DOES. Her and her "medium" boyfriend left the next morning.

    Not long after that I gave a church friends friend a ride home from church. (She wanted to go out with friends). On the way to his house he starts hissing and twisting like a snake; and he pulls out a 10 inch butcher knife. I was praying silently in tongues the last few blocks. He got out of my car without incident.

    We all must know that the Dominion, God gave to Adam is ours too. Creepy people qualify as creeping things as far as I'm concerned. Jesus gave us Authority to tread on scorpions, creeps and every other evil thing. Gotta learn who we are IN CHRIST. The word of God (scriptures) in our mouth__is as deadly as Goliaths sword in David's hands. Jesus confronted Satan with scriptures; when He was tempted in the desert.

    The spirit world is invisible ( Ephesians 6) you won't see anything but your spirit can discern the attack. Fight back like Jesus did. God isn't going to allow "them" to hurt His child.

    We can ask God to send angels to guard our house and kids. They harken to the Word being spoken, so put some FM Radio on in the evenings; or YouTube spiritual warfare scripture readings.

    We have weapons of warfare. I'm saying they work. "We have not, because we don't ask. So let's ask, receive it and use it." I'm not making this up. Anyone doing anything with Jesus, be alert. Don't date UNBELIEVERS, young people.

    Mishael
  • Ronald L Whittemore - In Reply on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    Mishael,

    Thank you, I agree without the word of God being our weapons, we can not stand up to the evil on this earth. Many to most people never encounter these evil beings, I did for over two years. When it started, I had read parts of the Bible but I was in no way prepared for things at that time I did not even believe were real.

    I know demons do not have a body and are on this earth until judgment and my wife and I dealt with them. Many things happened during that time. I will tell you of the one instance of this being that visited me in my bed while I was asleep. I was awakened when it laid on top of me, it was a light night and light was coming in through the window.

    He put a cloth over my face that looked like burlap because I could see through it. His hand covered my entire head and he was smothering me. His body was massive just his upper body was over me and the bed and it did not feel human.

    I kept wrestling and turned my head enough to free my mouth and said one word, Jesus, and it was like this being was snatched straight up and was gone. It may not have been a physical body but it was solid because my hands were clutching its hand and arm trying to get free. I had to change my clothing because I was drenched with sweat and I did not go back to sleep. God can get our attention in many different ways.

    Thank you for being on this site and for the guidance and encouragement you bring.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Old Days When Life Was Wild and Scary - In Reply on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    They do like to get us sleep deprived. They'd pin me and hold my eyelids shut; mouth. But you know what? We can scream Jesus's Name (mind) and the Lord will banish them. They levitated my bed with me in it.

    A friend in my guest room felt something huge sit on the edge of his bed. He sat up but didn't see anything.

    Once I learned that we can Ask God for angelic protection, I stopped being fearful. Jesus provides everything we need at any moment.

    We are kings and priests; even women. All believers can walk in unmolested freedom. I spread out nets of protection over people beat down from spiritual warfare. Why? Because I knew God loves them and wants them saved and living in victory over all enemies.

    Just have to obey Ephesians 6. "They are invisible". They hate the God that lives within us.

    When I was going through this, the Holy Spirit got me out of bed (pneumonia) and took me to a Christian bookstore. I kinda argued because I had to buy milk for my kid and a teenager kicked out of her house. He took me to a sale table and I bought a book called 'Angels' by Charles Capps. I read it that same day. I knew I was being tormented. I prayed for angels to hang out at my house and assist me till I was well. I have never been troubled since that time. I could fill a book.

    Those doing street ministry need to ask God to send angels to assist and protect. They like Gospel music, so fill your house with praise. If the teenagers are runnin with the crowd, PRAY for them. Get the demons gone and pray for God to hang with those kids. You will see little miracles every day. Always give thanks to God for His Mercy and Grace. Always.

    I was doing "War Room" in my closet floor before it was a movie. All kinds of churches need to revive intercessory prayer. "Thy will be done"

    If you have to get loud, go sit in the car.

    Check your house top to bottom for cursed objects. Demons accuse us for that. But don't be hyper. Discern the spirits. 1 Cor. 12
  • English sacha - In Reply on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    Thankyou for your post , it was fascinating to me , I am a very grounded and practical person , not much given to flights of fancy , however I definitely do not believe in coincidences , good ones or bad ones . Stay strong and be brave , if you belong to Jesus then nothing can touch you .
  • Free - In Reply on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    Thank Jesus Christ for your Kingdom! And thank you Mishael!

    On the way to his house he starts hissing and twisting like a snake;

    i see ppl who lie or want to lead wrong like snakes! I see them actually twist. Not in the body but in the spirit.

    Its good to know that am not alone, we dont speak of this things in the society, that is bad. Becouse we need too know as you tell. ty God bless us all in Jesus name.
  • Grace - In Reply on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    @Mishael; Wow!!! Thank youuuuu! I'll sit under that teaching any time!

    I'm hearing you. Message received.
  • Carleton - In Reply on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    Brother Ronald, Thank you for sharing some of your testimony here.
  • Ronald L Whittemore - In Reply on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    Hey Carleton,

    Thanks, our family in Christ is amazing, made up of different parts of the body with various gifts and purpose and the amazingly different ways we are reborn into this family of the body of Jesus Christ.

    God bless you and your family.

    RLW
  • Glenn - In Reply on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    WOW !!! That certainly must have been a awesome thing ,.. I am happy for you, seeing Jesus, is a special opportunity
  • Mishael - In Reply on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    He's looks like a man, but he's beautiful. Stronger than our self-hate. He adopted me.



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