Bible Discussion Thread

"The God of all flesh" is a perfect way to say, (while you look at another person), "I am seeing, truly seeing an image of God".

If so be the kingdom of heaven is within you, you may say, oh yes indeed! These are my brothers and sisters!

While we are the children in His creation, He has given what we need, we could not add anything that He has already done. With all of Life's necessary accessories, even food and clothing!

Perhaps, if we "moved" like the rest of his creation, like the tide, the moon and the sun, the animal kingdom , the earth itself, then maybe we would see more perfectly! You may say, where did this come from? How did this come too me! Perhaps because of faith! Perhaps I prayed! Perhaps I heard Him! Perhaps I gave Him my heart?

While we all are equal in this world , their are some who will never know these things! They will never come to the gate, nor will they see what the heart needs, the things most needful, detoured only by their own unbelief!

While this education can only come from heaven, it will be impossible for us too teach these things to an unbelieving heart! Eliminating the past will only stoke the fires of hell, pacifying the soul that refuses the way! A way which will, nor can never, take away the sin that blurs the way unto God! This condition born into us, will always surface to the top of the nature, without faith in Christ! A sinful condition that only can be rectified by the savior himself!

Hope in the risen savior, the Christ child, the only begotten Son, from all eternity. Sin is much deeper in the soul, it requires a supernatural power! The power established when He rose again! He has a "A HOUSE" ready in the heavens for you and I! If it were not so He would have told you! Repent and be baptized!

Brother Fred, the baptism that you speak of, is it with water?

Thank you for your thoughts.

Amen Brother Fred. I think I can envision your little Church by my own experience. I was born again where I knew I had blessings that you described in the back part of a dirty produce truck which was backed up to a dirty produce dock in the middle of the night in San Francisco. The Holy Spirit gave me immediate peace and I was thankful. On the way to my asking for Baptism at the little Church, I felt the Lord's wings wrap around me for comfort. In a little room I met with two or three ministers and two deacons and most had their wives there. So all together we were over twelve in number. As I asked for a water baptism (sometime later, might have been two or three days; the method was pouring) into the little Church I noticed one of the wives knitting in peace in the background. I knew I had the same peace and the same joy. So I love your love and joy too.

At 12, I had my first job as a helper on a produce truck in Blue Island Ill. I was a big enough kid to pick up a sack of potatoes, so I got the job. It seems like yesterday, but was the first real job I began my working career. The sacraments, which include baptism, holy communion, marriage, have been ordained by God. The water, the bread and wine , the uniting of the spirit can do nothing unless they are attached to the word of God. Yes, I do believe that we are buried in His death and raised again in his resurrection. (literally). That the wine and the bread are his body and blood(literally). That marriage between a man and woman is literally sanctified by Jesus, forever while they are both alive. It is a mystery how the blood of Christ can do these things, but with God all things are possible! The doctrines are important, so we may say what we believe. Jesus Christ is the savior of the world, and this is the will of His Father.

A baptismal was not available, nor a nearby creek! The tears that flowed supplied the water , combined with that of the pastors hand! Yes , did I hear the words "this is my beloved son"? Did I see the dove that fell on me? Oh yes my friend, this was consecrated with the words that flowed from the baptizers mouth , through his words flowed the milk and honey that would restore my soul, the very pages it was born from!

The word with the water, the sound of heaven written in the winds, that fell upon my face, when I walked through the doors of that little church! The angels still stand in awe, as they guided my foot steps, ordering my words, waking even those who look and say "how can these things be"?

How perfect it was, how He guided me ,this spirit from Heaven! Surely there would be nothing to hurt me.

Soon I would learn, what it means to trust Him.

Soon I would lay my sword down, remove my shod feet ,leave my breastplate and go alone.

There can be nothing worse, than going into this life without Him. Soon, I would find what I had lost. Only this time , With Him! Stronger, weightier, straight on, most importantly, listening only to Him. Waiting, waiting, on Him!

There is nothing more refining, in a persons life, more comforting, than to be forgiven and received once again into His Devine providence .A providence that truly will cleanse you and keep you , this The Christ!, only Christ!

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Hello Carleton

Matthew 3:11

Acts 1:4

Hope this is helpful

Hello Brother Messenger of the hour! Thank you, in many cases I am thinking of us all as we in Christ in a question or meditation but it this particular question I was thinking of a particular Brother to answer for better understanding of his answer to the question. I myself understand Baptism by the Holy Spirit and Baptism by water as parts of my own repentance by faith experience, one immediate and one in due time.

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