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BIBLE DISCUSSION THREAD 170443

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  • Alex N - 3 years ago
    In Acts 10 & 11 The Lord was baptising folks with the H.G. THE ULTIMATE BAPTISM. but Peter was commanding water baptism after the baptism of the H.G. Thats when the lord gave peter that vision of all the unclean animals in that sheet saying what i have made CLEAN ( by the blood ) do not call common or unclean. All the inclean animals was the Church , humanity the world That was made CLEAN by the blood of the lamb not water baptism that peter was commanding. But Peter cd not understand the vision at first But when it came to him he says Then remembered i the words of our lord,John baptised you with water but i will will baptise you with the H.G. Peter remembered the words of our lord about baptism. And said who was i to withstand the GOD. 3 Times the lord rebuked Peter with that sheet telling him what i have made clean do not call common or unclean And they were all made Clean by the blood of the Lamb ,Behold the lamb of God that taketh away the sins of the world. When ya tell folks that they need water baptism its in essence saying the blood was insufficient , A slap in the face of the lamb of God,Thats y the Lord was so upset with Peter commanding water baptism ,After ya understand the Enormity of the CROSS ( the blood of the lamb of God you will neva mention water baptism for the Remmision for sins again. period. Even Paul feared to water baptise saying it wd make the blood the CROSS of no effect. 1 st Cor. 1 : 17
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Amen Brother Alex, you are right, ALL (in the fullness of time)( Ephesians 1:10) are going to be MADE ONE, exact duplications of CHRIST (the SEED).

    Ephesians 4:4 ....ONE BODY (Christ), ONE SPIRIT (God the Father) ....

    1 Timothy 6:16...Who (Christ) ONLY hath IMMORTALITY, dwelling in the light....

    1 Corinthians 15:53 ....this mortal must PUT ON (CHRIST) immortality.

    1 Corinthians 15:54 .... DEATH is swallowed up in victory (LIFE) (THE WORD)...

    1 Corinthians 3:22-23 ....all(BODY and SPIRIT) is yours, ye are Christ's (the body), Christ is God's (the Spirit).
  • Bill Mitchell - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Alex: I would suggest to you that the Book of Acts is a progressive revelation. I submit that "remission" and "redemption" are not the same thing. Peter was still preaching the "gospel of the kingdom" ( Matt. 9:35) to Israel in Acts 2 as the door was still open for them to accept their Messiah. That door remained open till they stoned Stephen in Acts 7. Peter never preached Acts 2:38 again for the rest of his life since Israel, as a nation, had rejected Christ as their Messiah. Notice Peter's statement in Acts 15:11. By this time, Peter is preaching salvation by faith alone because Israel had been put aside for 2k years. Notice, in Acts 10:44, just as Peter is about to tell Cornelius to repent and be baptized, the HG comes down and interrupts his message and changes his sermon outline! Cornelius and family were saved by FAITH -- not water baptism. There are 3 different saving gospels in the New Testament: 1 The "gospel of the kingdom" offering Israel their Messiah, 2. After Israel rejects their Messiah, God raises up Paul and gives him "the gospel of the grace of God" ( Acts 20:24, this is the gospel that saves us today, and 3. "The everlasting gospel" ( Rev. 14:6-7) preached by an angel in the tribulation. Salvation in the tribulation is by FAITH and WORKS just as it was in the Old Testament. While the church is on earth, salvation is a free gift. "now [this age of grace that will end at the rapture] is the day of salvation" 2 Cor. 6:2.



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