Bible Discussion Thread

 
  • Ms. Sherry Carter on Matthew 6 - 3 years ago
    how should i fast and pray for 7 days
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Matthew 6 - 3 years ago
    Sister Sherry, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    Study Isaiah 58, you will find the way God wants you to fast very different from the way man says you are to fast.
  • Carleton - In Reply on Matthew 6 - 3 years ago
    Isaiah 58:6

    Is not this the fast that I have chosen? to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke?

    Brother Earl, If today, a lamb rests by the still water from it's labors (burdens) is it not in the chosen fast? What would hinder this continuing fast of Jesus's little lambs?
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Matthew 6 - 3 years ago
    Amen Brother Carleton, nothing will hinder TRUTH.
  • Carleton - In Reply on Matthew 6 - 3 years ago
    Brother Earl, God bless our conversation. You would agree that God has provided a recipe to know Him. The finished knowledge of the recipe will not be fully known until the work of the recipe is completed in the order of the instructions and ingredients provided. Jesus says he is the Bread of Life, we can be ingredients to His work but our order is important. To teach the Gospel for fullness of Truth it cannot be taught just know the Bread of Life, while it is true, it is not in order. I know you make liberty for this order to come to pass and all will be well. It might not work that way. An important ingredient may be left aside or some other mode of preparation. By revelation we may see past the mixing bowl, usually it is for our own saving grace so that we ourselves remain in order, so that as you describe, we will know the fullness of Christ in due time. We cannot teach from heaven as we are out of order, we teach in earth where our daily walk remains in order.
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Matthew 6 - 3 years ago
    Brother Carleton, I'm not quite understanding. We can not teach from heaven as we are out of order, we teach in earth where our daily walk remains in order.

    You are correct God's word is the recipe, and all the ingredients are there, but the finished product want come until we leave this flesh.

    We eat the bread and drink the water every day.

    Are you saying there is no way of knowing what will take place when we leave this body of flesh.

    I BELIEVE we can know and God wants us to know and has revealed it in his WORD.
  • Carleton - In Reply on Matthew 6 - 3 years ago
    Brother Earl, The thought that I wish to convey since we know that the Bread of Life which came from Heaven, can we as commanded teachers of the Gospel say to the hungry go and be fed (fulfilled) or should the teacher help turn the hungry to the ingredients by the needed recipe to be fed?

    For the thought of an example lets say the hungry in a particular case may be a 14 year old boy in Haiti. What ingredients of the recipe might we supply to this youth or would we just say Jesus is the Bread of Life, You must know Him and go our own way?

    What is the order in earth for the one who knows Jesus Christ to teach?

    There is no way in the order of this earth meaning my flesh for me to end up with a finished product without preparation and following the instructions and the sweat of the brow.



    In meditation...
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Matthew 6 - 3 years ago
    Thank you Brother Carleton, now I understand what you are asking or saying.

    Where do we as bearers of light start. We can not TRULY start anywhere until we ourselves know TRUTH.

    Matthew 23:15 Woe unto you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him two fold more the child of hell than yourselves.

    Mark 8:15 And he charged them saying, beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, and the leaven of Herod.

    Galatians 5:9 A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump.

    Our churches send out men that have no spiritual knowledge and make converts like themselves, converts with no spiritual knowledge.

    We as light bearers are to start with those God places in our path. If someone ask you for money give it to them, with no expectations. If they are hunger fed them, with no expectations, if they steal you coat give them also your cloak, with no expectations, if they physically abuse you lift not your hand, if they verbally abuse you lift not your voice.

    People see more than they hear.

    Doing these things on a day to day basis will cause them to ASK concerning your actions, now you can plant a SEED, and that may be all you ever do, but God will CAUSE that seed to be watered by someone else.

    Ephesians 1:10 That in the dispensation of the FULNESS OF TIMES (more than the lifespan we live) he might gather together IN ONE all things in Christ, both which are in heaven and which are on earth, IN HIM.

    My two grandmothers were exact opposites of each other, one PREACHED heaven and hell to me on a daily basis, the other never said a word but live a visible life of Christ, guess who impacted my life the most.
  • Carleton - In Reply on Matthew 6 - 3 years ago
    Thank you Brother Earl for sharing your heart and life.
  • Successful Fasting and prayer - In Reply on Matthew 6 - 3 years ago
    Ask God to help you make a comprehensive list of your sins.

    Confess every sin that the Holy Spirit calls to your remembrance and accept God's forgiveness ( 1 John 1:9).

    Seek forgiveness from all whom you have offended, and forgive all who have hurt you ( Mark 11:25; Luke 11:4; 17:3,4).

    Make restitution as the Holy Spirit leads you.

    Ask God to fill you with His Holy Spirit according to His command in Ephesians 5:18 and His promise in 1 John 5:14,15.

    Surrender your life fully to Jesus Christ as your Lord and Master; refuse to obey your worldly nature ( Romans 12:1,2).

    Meditate on the attributes of God, His love, sovereignty, power, wisdom, faithfulness, grace, compassion, and others ( Psalm 48:9,10; 103:1-8, 11-13).

    Begin your time of fasting and prayer with an expectant heart ( Hebrews 11:6).

    Do not underestimate spiritual opposition. Satan sometimes intensifies the natural battle between body and spirit ( Galatians 5:16,17).

    If you're married with kids, you'll still need to care for them. Attend to your duties, then excuse yourself back to your "closet".

    I fast from food and ALL MEDIA. The idea is fast from food, AND feast on the Word of God. Ask the Holy Spirit to shield you from interruptions, like phone calls, people who drop in unannounced or uninvited.

    Have on hand, bouillon, fruit juice, lots of water. Jesus hungered after his fast. (he drank water.)

    If you are diabetic or on serious meds, check your blood sugar if you feel bad. Dehydration will stop a fast.

    Read the Gospels. Spend time in praise and worship. You can do this at work with headphones on. Whatever you do; no long faces. Bathe and dress normal.

    Write Eph. 6 on a piece of paper and keep it before you. Don't tell anyone you're on fast. Just your husband. Satan will try to make you mad, feel unspiritual. Jesus used SCRIPTURE to counter attack satans attacks.

    It's good to read aloud. We have gates: ears, eyes, mouth, a heart of joy. The Word goes in through all gates.
  • Tammy - In Reply on Matthew 6 - 3 years ago
    Thank you.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Matthew 6 - 3 years ago
    Isaiah 58:1-14, Daniel 1:5-20, Daniel 10:2-4, Matthew 6:16-18, Matthew 4:1-2, Exodus 34:28, Judges 13:1-5,7,14,

    I hope these scriptures give you some insight on a few perspectives, examples related.

    I have heard many fast by not eating meat or sweets, mostly vegetables. Some turn off T.V., radio or other habits. Some have done all liquid only, such as broths, juices etc. Most people won't recommend a total fast, but some will do a 3 day no food or liquid fast.

    I personally recommend you seek GOD fully before you do any fast. If you feel led by the HOLY SPIRIT to fast HE will help you. It is a very personal thing & if you don't feel personally led, I recommend you wait. Matthew 23:1-4,

    There are moments to humble yourself, seek GOD's face in a powerful way, to teach yourself submission, break stronghold habits, difficult choices, impossible situations, etc. Trust the LORD to lead you, sustain you & keep you.

    More scriptures to consider. Matthew 17:14-21, Mark 9:16-29,



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