Bible Discussion Thread

There are 2 ppl that are involved in our Salvation . 1 is our old adamic nature WHICH IS IN RANK WITH SATAN that is made white at repentence but he answers to the Dog that returns to his vomit . But if we have a relationship with Jesus, We hear his voice, his words that results in a birth of a New INNERMAN which is the H.G. That Child of Promise ,Whosoever receives one such child in MY NAME receives me,Thus that Christ in us cannot sin simply b/c he is born of God But we have to KNOW him, for the newman to be born in US. My little Children in whom i travail in birth till Christ is formed in you, My sheep hear my voice and they shall neva be plucked outa of my Hand And my Father that gave them to me is greater then ALL and no man is able to pluck them outta of my FATHERS HAND. Remember Jesus said if the branches bring forth no fruit they wheither and die thats what happens to us if we are not truly bornagain bringing forth no fruit unto God i.e. we have to know him thats when the good seed is sown in our hearts....Remember Jesus refered to Peter as satan one time b/f he was bornagain. We are involved in a warfare but there is no condemnation to them in Christ Jesus . Unless ya receive the Kingdom of God as a lil Child which is that Child of PROMISE, The H.G. you will in no wise Enter there in . But we have to know him ( Faith comes by hearing his words his seeds ) Hannah prayed for lil Samuel to be born, We need to pray for the H.G to be born in us . (the GIFT) That which is born of the spirit is spirit thats the H.G. That Wants to be born in Us.

Brother Alex, I believe Satan is FLESH and God is SPIRIT and they are at war with each other.

Thank God SPIRIT HAS WON.

Earl With all due respect that contradicts Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, also Ephesians 2:2 also 1 John 4:1-3 how many times is spirit mentioned. Spirit of truth and spirit of error cannot come from same source. That's my conclusion to this matter God bless.

Brother Rick, You said spirit of truth and spirit of error can not come from the same source.

I though God was the ONLY source of every thing.

Colossians 1:16 For by him were ALL THINGS created, that are in heaven and that are in earth, visible and INVISIBLE. whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or POWERS: all things were created by him, and FOR HIM.

Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not with flesh and blood, but against principalities. against POWERS, against the rulers of darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

All these things we fight against in Ephesians 6:12 are the same things that he created for HIMSELF in Colossians 1:16

2 Thessalonians 2:8 Then shall that Wicked be revealed.....

2 Thessalonians 2:9 Even him (that wicked), whose coming is after the working of SATAN with all POWERS and signs of lying wonders,

2 Thessalonians 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness IN THEM that perish; because THEY received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

2 Thessalonians 2:11 FOR THIS CAUSE shall GOD shall send them strong delusion that they should BELIEVE A LIE.

Man says this verse is talking about that ONE ANTI CHRIST, but verse 10 SAYS THEM AND THEY. That's more than one.

Ephesians 2:2 Where in time past ye also walked according to the course of this world (FLESH), according to the prince (Satan)of the POWER of the air ( 2 Thessalonians 2:9), the SPIRIT that now worketh in the children of disobedience (Satan).

2 Thessalonians 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall CONSUME with the spirit of his mouth (the WORD) and the brightness (the LIGHT) of his coming ( Hebrews 9:28).

GBU

Hi Rick.

Great scriptural contrast and point.

God bless.

Hi Rick , I honestly don't mean to be arguementative with you . Have you read the account of Saul and David's relationship ? I will give you one example , I could give you lots of others but this one will do I think : 1st Samuel Ch16 v14 . There are loads of others like this all over the Old Testament . I believe that God is Sovereign over all His creation . The only thing that opposes Him is us , sinfull flesh , when we give in to our own lusts and serve our flesh rather than serving Him . Jesus says that we must deny ourselves , sacrifice ourselves , fast if you like , stop serving our own fleshly desires , deny our lusts , don't do what our flesh craves us to do , don't serve our sinfull flesh serve God . This is what Jesus did , he denied his own desires completely , never married , no children , he denied his own desires all day every day . None of us do that . We serve ourselves . We serve our own desires , our own flesh . The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak . The serpent represents sinfull flesh , it's that which Moses lifted up in the desert and Christ compares himself to it , sinfull flesh crucified , though of course Christ never sinned so the wages of sin cannot be applied to him because he didn't earn them . We do . Every day . We choose . God already knows us and the choices we will make before we are even born .